Tyrande and Horde [Night Fae Spoiler]

Sorry I won’t answer your question the way you want it answered. Not really a right or wrong answer. You asked me how I would react in her shoes. I said I wouldn’t let Varessa and the Silver Covenant loose. Or allow Belfs to be fed to sharks. :man_shrugging: Sorry I’ve offended you. :v:t2:

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if you gonna sell weapons of war, during a global war, its your job to do your homework

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Maybe Night Elves should have done the same and not stayed in the burning death trap. They should have known better, they were in a war after all.

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How would they know the Horde was going to burn it?

Even when it was burning, some did escape via evacuation. Still didn’t save most of the people in the tree.

They didn’t have enough time to save most of the elves.

And that’s not the night elves fault, but the Hordes.

I wish the Vulpera did ask the Horde why they were fighting the Alliance, and if the Horde used deception (never mentioned the genocide), maybe saying Alliance attacked first, that would have worked far better.

Unfortunately instead it seemed like the Vulpera didn’t seem to care about why the Horde were fighting the Alliance.

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Come on.

The vulpera are nomadic people, they were in need, Horde helped first, then Alliance attacked them to hurt the Horde.

Alliance did bad there, like it did bad attacking zandalari ships so there was no witness of their war campaign planes, like they did by arresting Talanji, like they did by invading Dazarar’lor.

Having a motive does not excuse a crime.

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The alliance had no clue that the Vulpera knew nothing about the Alliance. All they saw were Horde Allies.

They probably assumed the Vulpera knew about the reasons for the war, and didn’t care.

But they should have tried to have a friendly encounter with one, to learn more, before attacking.

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They sold weapons to a faction bent on genocide of the whole alliance, the vulpera didn’t do their homework they literally cant be mad about that

A lot of people were mad at Germany and Japan…even though not everyone in those countries were responsible for why their governments started a World War and the atrocities that followed.

Just because your specific Horde character didn’t do evil, your person is still apart of a faction that did.

Not all Germans and Japanese did terrible things, but its understandable why an anti-German/Japanese perception exists during wartime and after.

Tyrandes view towards all Hordes players is just realistic.

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the writers against the wishes of the players who were very angry

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I like your little fox, I feel exactly the same

Well Nelves only have 1 brain cell and who knows what happened to it as seems to be lost as Atlantis

On this I agree, one thing we like to poke fun, the same way we are at the receiving end whenever a faction war happens but I think you nailed at Marketing having a lot of pressure on the game.

Still that doesn’t mean Marketing decisions can’t be turned, MoP was their try to get the Chinese market more invested than ever and world building wise and narrative, that expansion is still remembered fondly.

This very much, you are certainly a very eloquent person and I lower my hat for your way of expressing the current problems we are dealing at Blizzard. Honestly they need to touch the bottom once again if we want changes

I think she’s mad that her faction of nomadic Fox people who mean little to no harm who are in literally only in one zone on one island in the middle of the ocean and have little to no contact with the outside world got attacked for what in there mind seemed like nothing. They probably didn’t even know what a Night Elf was, they were in dire need of help so some big tough looking guys who would have easily swept them away helped them. So they repaid them.

I don’t know why people think the Vulpera needed to go full on UN and bring every race to the table and talk things through and get to know the political feel of a planet they probably know little about. They were caught in the middle of a massive war that was brought to their homes over night. They helped the side that helped them, I don’t think they had the time or knowledge to know they need to send emissaries to every corner of Azeroth and figure every little thing out.

Countless alien races start fighting in your backyard and one helps you, chances are you’re going to help it back.

Plus Blizzard needed a new race for the Horde so that’s the main reason. So like most reasons we all argue about it can probably be blamed on gameplay reasons.

But ya, Hitler or something.

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Says the one that thinks the Alliance does no evil. Even when presented with evidence of such. Pretty sure you as the player character have also genocided 10 fold over for your kill quests.

Alliance has done wrong…but compared to what the Horde has done…we are Angels.

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even the nightborne had a idea of whats going on, its no excuse

Yep. Burning non combatants and their homes are the work of angels.

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the faction created in warcraft 3 and that we had until lich king was a good faction.

the developers started destroying the faction from Cata.

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Lol someone didnt do the quest on alliance side

The Horde has done the same, but when they do it they kill WAY MORE then the Alliance did.

And the burning is just 1 of many Horde crimes, when looking back on what the modern Horde has done.

I did. You as the player scare, but the NPCs burn. In beta the npcs were called purge squads, but it was too on the nose.

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The nightborne had been through some of azeroths biggest problems and had dealt with plenty at the point we found them. The Vulpera were like 12 foxes living in tents that probably thought Zandalar was the whole world.

We are well aware, we are reminded every minute or two.

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