But we know it to be the case in game.
You know. Knowledge that in game characters don’t have and yet are still blamed for such.
Like for example the Vulpera.
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It is both of their fault. The specific individuals shouldn’t have done what they did. And Jaina shouldn’t have imprisoned and killed them as she did. But the person who actually did the imprisoning and killing has more control and responsibility on that than the person their reacting to.
‘I think she should have done it!’
Ok, I know you don’t care about their rights. We’re talking about Blood Elf perspective.
Yeah, and a lot of Alliance leaders were onboard with this.
Doesn’t really translate to the common Kul Tiran or Stormwindian wanting this.
Vulpera being yelled at could be as uncanon as Vulpera being around during the Cataclysm for leveling prior to Chromie Time.
I am talking about blaming Vulpera for helping the Horde who helped them, then promptly had their homes and people set on fire by the Alliance for it.
Just like your night elf tree. Quite on the nose.
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And I’m talking about how Vulpera are interacting with Tyrande for gameplay purposes rather than lore purposes, as there are no Vulpera around should an Alliance player be doing the Night Fae quests.
But here we are.
And yet you aren’t. Schrodinger’s Maw Walker is my point.
Something close to this is the prevailing notion in my mind. As much as I may loathe some actors in the Alliance, and enjoy justice against them… I know Posters and Players are merely along for a designed video game ride.
That’s not how it works. Sylvanas wasn’t justified because she literally didn’t use Genn attacking her as an official reason to go to war because it would have implicated her betraying Odyn’s forces and going behind the Horde’s back to give herself more power.
“Hey Horde, we’re glad you helped us out and we’d love to pay you back…but maybe after the war you started by genociding off half the race of one of the most powerful forces on the planet is over. Ya know, so we don’t get dragged into it”.-there. Also they weren’t set on fire, that didn’t make it to live.
Yes she should have. She imprisoned them because they couldn’t be trusted during war time and could have easily escaped with Dalaran secrets to give to a faction hellbent on destroying her people, and out of the tiny handful killed (because for the 10^99999999x infinitieth time, the ingame purge was bugged and Jaina was killing left right and center for no reason) it was because they resisted arrest.
In a vacuum they deserve rights, but the Purge wasn’t in a vaccuum, it was during a time when a genocidal maniac was hellbent on wiping out the Alliance and had abused the neutrality of Dalaran twice through a Blood Elf traitor.
Jaina had every right to put the safety of her people and the security of Dalaran’s secrets and resources over the rights of the Blood Elves.
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Naw, she had easy means to avoid such needless measures.
Nothing is ever in a vacuum when it plays out. This is a pointless statement. At the end of the day, you don’t care about said rights. Life service to them is pointless.
Again, this is from the Blood Elf perspective. From their perspective, they did nothing wrong. And that’s true, they didn’t. 99% of them were entirely uninvolved.
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I wonder why she* wouldn’t use such an easy justification… 
*the writers
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Yeah, I wouldn’t say Baine came off as the strong guy in that exchange.
To be fair, Jenakira did claim to be speaking for Horde players. But even if you’re really speaking for 99% of them, there will always be those few who go against the stream.
So … because Aethas didn’t tell her what he knew, a Blood Elf shopkeeper deserved to be fed to the sharks? No, that’s nonsense.
I misspoke a little. I was trying to say “after it started” and “while it was in progress” at the same time, and it came out as “after it was in progress,” which I will grant you is confusing. We agree about how that happened.
As for not telling Jaina, we can argue all day about whether he should have done so or not. I’m certainly not going to say he was 100% right in his decision. But her reaction was disproportionate.
And I’ll say it again, bolded: That is nonsense. The only ones who deserve to be attacked are the ones who perpetrated the actual theft and transport of the Divine Bell. Aethas deserves a lesser punishment for being an accessory after the fact.
No Blood Elf who was not named Aethas Sunreaver or Thalen Songweaver Fanlyr Silverthorn deserved to be punished. Period.
And that’s not what they’re honoring him for. Anyway, he’d given up on that idea by the end of his life.
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Friendly reminder that the Sunreavers didn’t commit the theft of the Bell. Fanlyr Silverthorn was the Blood Elf involved and he’s part of the Reliquary.
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Oh, THAT was his name! I can never remember it. Will edit previous message.
And the Vulpera knew of this genocide… how?
Their first contact with the Alliance is the Alliance burning down their homes and people. The Vulpera weren’t even active combatants.
That’s Teldrassil level of screwed up there.
To note, this was the same writer that in the same story forgot the Night Elves had spies infiltrate Quel’Thalas, and the same writer that pointed out that the maximum range of the catapults used to burn down Teldrassil was only a couple hundred yards.
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Probably because admitting you were trying to enslave the WoW equivalent to an Archangel for your own ends (then, immortality, now? who knows what she wanted to make Eyir actually do) through shady deals with hostile entities might not be the best argument to make.
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What would Saurfang say even if Sylvanas did bring it up, though? It’s hard to imagine he’d go to bat for Genn against his own warchief in that exchange.
This.
i believe this needs to be repeated.
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love u dude
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