Twinks still a HUGE problem

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Always with the slippery slope fallacies.

“What’s next? Everyone just holds hands instead of PvP’ing??” No, players just wanted twinks removed or brought in line. The only one talking about an apocalyptic future that results from the split is you.

You, again, are the only one talking about a strictly even PvP experience. No one’s campaigning for the removal of the berserker buff because it’s a player advantage. Once more, just wanted twinks addressed.

I get you’re upset because it was your favorite way to play but no amount of hyperbole is going to make people change their minds about twinks.

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Depending on the level range honestly you can even get out of it in an less then a hr

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That seems to be what non-twinks want.
My community was destroyed.
My friends left. WoW is back to being a single player MMO with the “raid/play BFA or quit!” mentality.
BFA is not a good expansion, azerite gear is unbalanced (see other threads about people complaining about it).

Blizzard can easily fix the problems, they chose not to.
Options have been suggested.
No premades (IMO a way bigger “problem” than twinks)
Put levelers in with AI
Put twinks in with AI
Limit the amount of “exp:off” players that can join a BG.
They once had a cap on healers right? So why can’t the same principle apply to exp: off? Cap how many can join each BG on each side.

There were better options than just pooping on exp: off players.

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You forgot have a full stack of goblin gliders, just for completion’s sake. :slight_smile:

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Sarcasm and hyperbole is not the same thing, even remotely.

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You know whats funny is now the community wants to face bots from the AI lmao its rather sad the levelers/max level ppl I mean

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Pretty funny actually.
I personally don’t wanna fight AI, which is why I didn’t to that AB AI thing.
Seemed… unfun.
But hey… if they can populate exp: off queues with AI and get them to pop for us, hey it’s better than nothing.
Or put people who just wanna level in with AI, and give people with enchanted up looms in with twinks.
There were better options than just saying “eff off twinks! We don’t want your money.”

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It was prolly the most boring brawl they have added so far I wish it would never come back but its going too sadly but oh well free conquest I suppose

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Yeah it wasn’t appealing at all. BUT it did prove that WoW has evolved to the point that AI is viable for Bg’s.
It could actually solve this issue.
Levelers could be faced with equal/less skilled AI opponents, and anyone wanting a “real” challenge, could queue with or against geared players that are exp: off (or on since leveling twinks do exist).
Eliminate premades, cap exp: off players, good God something else could have, and should have, been done.

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I continue to find it endlessly hilarious how before the separation, twinks(and their defenders) claimed that there’d be a slippery slope with people asking for more and more drastic separations.

Yet after the separation the only ones consistently talking about more separation are twinks.

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I’m being sarcastic and a bit facetious.

I am rather angry though, and I have repeatedly stated my reason why I am mad over the separation, which wouldn’t have been an issue for me in the least if our queues actually popped.

We don’t even get an estimated timer, and we TRIED really hard one night to get a game to pop with discord coordination.

The last aspect of this game has been ruined for me.
My friend’s list is abandoned and I am back to playing alone again.
Exiled back to single player WoW. It’s not fun.
Back to farming mounts/pets or working on leveling twinks.
6+ conversations a day has turned into maybe 1 or 2 people talking per week.
My closest in game friends have all left, and I might get a text from them once in awhile asking how I am doing.

My community was destroyed.

WoW was my outlet for a pretty terrible real life existence that can not be changed.
I don’t and can’t raid. I am old, disabled, slow, undergeared, and got my gut full of raiding in MoP, BFA is lackluster, endgame PvP is a cess pool which is sort of hilarious to me because people say “come join us at max level PvP!” And I check those people, and they have all this mythic Ilvl400+ gear, and I walk in to a Bg as a fresh 120 with my World daily blues and get smashed by them… hmm… that seems… familiar somehow.
They took the time to gear up so they could be competitive, and that is alright, but when I do it at a lower bracket, that is a sin against humanity.

I just… sorry not sorry, I’m angry.
Myself and many others have made IMO reasonable suggestions to help BOTH sides of the fence, but it’s still not good enough because we are just mean ole twinks.

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If you took all that serious, idk what to say :joy:

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We continue to get callout threads of players doing nothing wrong.

F2P isn’t against any rules.

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This is where we fundamentally disagree. There is no suggestion that helps both sides, only ones that harms twinks less.
There is no benefit to having twinks in XPon for anyone who isn’t a twink.

It’s a shame your newfound sense of community was short-lived, but that’s on the people that quit and Blizzard. Taking out on anyone else is just pointlessly lashing out.

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In reference to this thread, Evidence of this exploit has not been posted anywhere here that I’ve seen.

Which is proof of nothing. Any Leveler who gears their character can do that as well.

Maybe because Hyperbole can’t counter Hyperbole? :thinking:

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Excuse me? My suggestion here actually Benefits non-twinks more then it does twinks, while simply not HARMING Twinks.

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Not surprising that anti twinks are completely against compromise.

They don’t even understand why the twinking communities are dying. It’s not because they can’t farm players either. That’s just the mafic spread on the forums.

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Reintegration in any form only benefits twinks. No matter what other extra steps you add, there is no positive unless you’re a twink.

That’s not to say there’s no way reintegration would work, but it still wouldn’t be a positive for non-twinks. Even if twinks were completely neutered and made fully equal, it’d be more null than positive.

It’s not compromise when one side losses and the other gains.

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The issue is you have no proof that player is exploiting.

Just because they’re geared doesn’t mean they’re exploiting. That’s why calling out players is against the rules.

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