I think you posted just to increase your post count ![:man_shrugging:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/man_shrugging.png?v=6" ":man_shrugging:")
sure wasnât to add anything of value.
Iâm not pretending anything. Iâm also not crucifying someone over rumor.
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Threads on this topic have come and gone, probably due to their being specific call-outs involved. The accusations included people hanging around the XP switch NPC and not leveling up despite repeated participation in XP-on BGs. Definitive? No, but those are pretty strong indicators of foul play if you ask me.
Itâs a hard thing to prove on the forums without threads being removed or suspensions/bans being handed out. That doesnât mean that itâs not happening.
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This was said to be around before queues were merged.
Whether or not an exploit is being used doesnât negate the fact that to a leveler, a twink is a temporary problem.
Just look at socks SS on his warrior. Just because someone has the damage of a twink, doesnât make them an exploiter.
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Thatâs irrelevant. If something is being exploited, and I admit that I canât personally prove that it is, then it should be dealt with whether itâs temporary or not.
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Thatâs fine and dandy and I agree, but not what Mauden was calling me on.
edit: I looked back and your comment wasnât in reply to me. I thought it was, which is why I replied to you. My b.
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Agreed, thatâs why I pointed to hanging around the NPC and repeated XP-on participation as indicators rather than just success on the leaderboards.
I was calling you on downplaying it, and then pretending it doesnât exist.
Nothing more, nothing less. Anything else is in your head.
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Well thatâs obvious but has anyone actually seen this? Just hanging around the NPC doesnât mean much. I hang in the same spot when queuing BGs, low or max level.
But again, there is only accusation in this thread. No proof. Nothing for you to base this on but a guyâs hunch. Iâm not getting worked up over that. I never pretended it didnât exist. I didnât go through the trouble of googling further into it, youâre correct. Iâm at workâŚlooking up exploits while at work is a bad idea. Are you trying to get me fired or something? : P
I stand by my statement that twinks are a TEMPORARY problem for levelersâŚyou havenât even attempted to sway my opinion otherwise.
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I can recall one thread in particular that reported observation of this behavior but it was removed or deleted.
Itâs not weird for someone to hang out and jump in circles waiting for queue but the exploit is only made possible by the NPC so people who camp there specifically, AND appear not to be leveling out in reasonable time, AND have uncommonly good gear are suspect as far as Iâm concerned. Too many coincidences.
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If theyâre present in every bracket then Iâd argue that itâs a pretty chronic issue that only gets worse as the number of alts a player chooses to level in BGs increases. But I feel thatâs a separate discussion.
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but youâre leveling to 120, right? Thatâs not permanent then.
I eagerly await when you can google it.
Thatâs cool. Iâm probably not going to, either. Yaâknow, since thatâs not what Iâm arguing.
I care much more about exploiting and the downplaying/dismissal of said exploits than whatever your personal opinion on twinking is.
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I actually wait around there to queue and tell the people there Iâm reporting them.
I donât actually do it, but it has led to some fun conversations.
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This is all in everyoneâs head actually. No one knows who is exploiting, who is not, except Blizz. These threads are all useless screaming at the sky endeavors. All anyone should do is report suspected and let it go from there.
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Chronic but not permanent, no. The issue was apparently long-term enough to be looked at and changed.
It was changed to oil the squeaky wheelâŚnot because it was a game breaking problem. Same with gear normalizing in instanced PvPâŚit was good and fair for the game, but overall boring and go changed to some weird convoluted scaling that no one really understandsâŚeven those who designed it.
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Some would take it a step further and illuminate the possibility on this forum. I donât think theyâre wrong for that. Itâll either improve the game by highlighting an exploit or do nothing at all.