Twinks still a HUGE problem

Didnt you just say 110 twinks are fine?

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Thatā€™s a catch 22. Nobody legit likes exploiters but people can feel that separation was a good decision without being a hater.

Wtf did I say that?

I have no problem with any twinks, as long as they are fighting other twinks. Go have fun, thatā€™s what we should all be doing.

Do you have a problem with 110 twinks fighting non twinks without a macro.

Tbh its to much to scroll through and reread

The only problem for Twinks at the moment is the insane queue times. Canā€™t get a single BG to pop at any bracket.

The only way to twink now without using an exploit is to make a level 20 twink with no game time so you can queue with XP turned on but without gaining any.

The queue times like this are 1-2 min and super fun, but once you resub you are benched for a monthā€¦ Currently waiting on my sub to run out actually so I can twink again. OOF

Used to love playing in other brackets, but the segregation literally killed every bracket.

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He does not want to admit that he has an issue with players who use optimal gear to win in a pvp bg ā€¦

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Im just double checking because after reading that it sounds like hes cool with it.

Fun for you twinking, not fun for the rest of the players who want a fair game. The split was the smart decision by Blizzard.

I have no problem with people gearing ahead of the competition. Thatā€™s literally the point of any MMOā€¦to keep improving your gear, abilities, and personal skill. Stop putting words in my mouth, start using your head.

If youā€™re referring to the players that donā€™t purchase the most recent expansion, and so they are capped at a lower max levelā€¦then that is a bit more complicated.

The short answer is yes, I have a problem with it, but I recognize that itā€™s not necessarily the playerā€™s fault. If they are deliberately not purchasing the expansion so they can gain the same huge advantage other twinks are getting, then I definitely disagree with that. Itā€™s an underhanded, slimy way of gaining a huge advantage over other players.

One problem is that thereā€™s no measurable offense the player is committing. Thereā€™s no action Blizzard can take because nobody is actually breaking any rules. Some of those crazily geared players can be ones returning from a break, and will out-level that bracket in the near future. Itā€™s also unfair of Blizzard to punish people for not purchasing expansions, regardless of how unlikely it is they couldnā€™t afford it.

I said it before, Iā€™ll say it again (and for the last time)ā€¦thereā€™s a big difference between gearing up and twinking. Itā€™s a grayish area for the non-upgraders, but not much can be done. The exploit, however, is bypassing the solution Blizzard gave to regular twinks.

So the issue is the fact they are exploiting? And not the fact they are twinks. I seeā€¦well theres a solution to both of our problems.

Youā€™re being trolled my dude.

Yep spot on Rofl she even thinks gearing is cheating man thatā€™s sad

You mean players who cheat to get gear that is not possible to get if you donā€™t cheatā€¦

This is the issue with XPoff and XPon together, there is a fundamental unfair advantage to turning off your XP.

I am so glad they separated the queues and now so sad that games are flooded with exploiters bypassing the separation.

Fix the exploit alreadyā€¦

Turning off xp to get gear is cheating? thats a new one. In vanilla I got all the gear i needed without turning off xp, is that cheating too?

Yeah who knew gearing was cheating thatā€™s a new 1

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and if you didnt know, heres a vanilla twink secret. You can get all the dungeon loot you want while getting 0 xp. That was before the xp off npc existed. Heres another secret, it wasnt cheating.

Itā€™s surprising to me how tenacious you twinks are about admitting something is wrong, like using the exploit. Iā€™m not surprised you think twinking is ā€˜fairā€™, or at least not unfair, but using an exploit to bypass Blizzardā€™s systemā€¦that one is surprisingā€¦

I guess I should have clarifiedā€¦

But you all know what I meant lol

Blizzard separated XPoff players for a very good reason:

With the introduction of stat templates in Legion, players with XP-gains turned off couldnā€™t get a significant advantage over players with XP-gains enabled, so we combined the brackets for low-level battlegrounds.

Go ahead and argue against that and see if Blizzard hears you.

I think thats what we are currently doing. And obviously they dont seem to think its a big deal either.