He wasn’t a twink when he was legitimately in high school, lmao. You understand that difference, right? Also, I’m saying Kobe NOW on a high-school team. Besides, that was a bad analogy because that was based on skill (aka Kobe doesn’t wear sneakers to make him 2 feet taller, or anything like that).
Do you think it’s fair to put Tyson against Holyfield, but to give Holyfield gigantic iron bars inside his gloves?
You brought up kobe first. So my analogy is extremely valid.
What I’m saying is my analogy using Kobe wasn’t accurate to what we’re discussing, because with twinks, it’s about the gear difference, not skill (or lack thereof). And besides, your point on my bad analogy was still wrong because you’re talking about going back in time…I was talking about putting Kobe, today, on a high-school team and watching them go undefeated.
It doesn’t fit his narrative though friend.
If you used that extra 20 minutes per queue to run a dungeon, quest, craft, kill some rares, or visit the AH, we wouldn’t need separate brackets just because some people don’t want to gear in an MMORPG (but instead want to remove those that do).
What, are you tired of the same regurgitated swill? Next up, “bully.”
they keep using that same bully word as well XDDD
I cant wait to be a problem ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
Ok then lets talk about high school Shaq. He was probably rediculously op just due to his size, not his skill. Basicly genetics(gear) that makes him taller. Clearly that wasnt fair to the other kids, but he also wasnt banned. P.S. at work atm so replies may slow down for a bit.
Shaq in high-school is not a ‘twink’ equivalent still. You’re taking people, who belong there, and just marking them as twink to fit your argument. Shaq being tall isn’t really different than race traits, or even class differences.
Try using my Mike Tyson analogy, that’s far more accurate (just reduced to a 1-vs-1 scenario, but you can extrapolate easily enough). So…Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield, a great fight. But Holyfield shows the referee fake gloves when checked, then dons his iron-bar filled gloves. Does that seem fair? Should he be ‘ejected’ the same way Sosa was with the corked bat?
There’s a VERY large difference between getting gear and twinking. Moreover, most people will be getting their gear at max level, not some temporary bracket where the gear would become obsolete within a few hours. The need to separate queues makes sense, which is why Blizzard (a company more qualified than most people on these forums to make such a decision) chose to separate them.
You miss the point entirely. New people dont have gear. You cant gear up to compete in 20minutes compared to people who have been Playing for years.
You cant buy anything from the AH because it costs 100s,1000s of gold, being a new player you have 0 gold.
Remove those that do? Youre not being removed. Youre being put in a bracket with people who have similar iLVL.
Not any more. Dungeon gear is minor points of difference from heirlooms.
I said 20 minutes per queue. So at even 2-3 battlegrounds worth, that’s an hour worth of effort.
Dungeons drop gear, plus they have quests the first time you do them (since “new”) that give blues, and you get a satchel with a blue piece.
Quests give gear that can upgrade.
Crafting at low levels takes very little effort. You can also gather mats and ask someone to craft for you.
Rares drop gear and are easy to kill.
I check the auction regularly. While some prices are crazy, I do find very cheap pieces as well (I missed the gold cap era, since I wasn’t playing then and came back a couple months ago. So, you won’t see me spending 100s of thousands on gold on gear either).
How do you think other people get gold? They put some time into making it.
Yeah, and as everyone is aware, those queues don’t pop. Sometimes, regular ones don’t even pop. If you were to separate the queues even further like you suggested, no one would get games.
Have you not seen the drastic difference between twinks and everyone else in these queues? Don’t forget, everyone else is leveling out of the brackets as well. So while they’re off getting this gear, they’re also off getting tons of experience and moving onto new brackets (and again, the requirement to farm more gear).
Twinks remain in the same bracket with BiS gear, that’s the difference. Anyone who is not a twink is just a visitor in that bracket.
Ah yes, those people, the ones who added exp to battlegrounds to begin with, creating this entire issue. lol
Actually, people driven to create unfair advantages and finding the exploit is the problem. Adding exp to battlegrounds was a brilliant solution to an old problem.
What was the problem?
Twinks.
I’ve never known anyone actually in game that had a problem with it. Only rando forum peeps. ![:woman_shrugging:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/woman_shrugging.png?v=6" ":woman_shrugging:")
That’s surprising you never heard or met anyone that didn’t like being 1-shot in battlegrounds. Well obviously it was an issue, since Blizzard specifically addressed it.
Also, you realize the forum peeps are in-game people, right? So clearly you have met SOME in-game people who are opposed to twinking.