Twinks still a HUGE problem

[Lastarria-emerald-dream]

I am on a legion account so 110 is end game for me and i am not cheating

Should I be not allowed , i am on xpon

See number 2.

2. XPoff players are cheating by abusing an exploit to get into XPon games without earning XP

I am talking about players who use an XP eliminator to cheat their way into XPon games without gaining XP. It is abusing an exploit to gain an unfair advantage. That is what this thread is about. Please fix this Blizz.

[Areté-stormrage]

I am talking about players who use an XP eliminator to cheat their way into XPon games without gaining XP. It is abusing an exploit to gain an unfair advantage. That is what this thread is about. Please fix this Blizz.

Many of your fellow anti twink propagandist expressed the real underlying issue is that they get smashed by more dedicted players and can not enjoy the pvp bg

They say its unfair that on the “leveling” bg people beat them due to gear and more time knowing the bg

Same things that will happen to them vs well geared Legion account players

Were does it stop?

Agreed cheating shouldnt be allowed but dedicated players that enjoy gearing there toons shouldnt be banned from enjoying the game

Should they?

[Lastarria-emerald-dream]

Agreed cheating shouldnt be allowed but dedicated players that enjoy gearing there toons shouldnt be banned from enjoying the game

Should they?

Cheating should stop. This exploit needs to be fixed. XPoff has its own queue to play in, but it seems many would rather cheat their way into XPon games.

If your idea of enjoying the game comes at the detriment to all the other players because you are abusing an exploit to cheat, then yes that should stop. Even if you are a ‘dedicated’ player that enjoys gearing your toons.

[Areté-stormrage]

If your idea of enjoying the game comes at the detriment to all the other players because you are abusing an exploit to cheat, then yes that should stop. Even if you are a ‘dedicated’ player that enjoys gearing your toons.

Does your sentiment expand to legion only accounts who are well geared and smash the levelers or just the cheaters?

[Jancith-tichondrius]

You mean that kid had to cheat to compete. Cheating is not anyone’s best.

i fail to see how stat optimization is cheating. i’m talking about having better items, not exploiting the experience npc. wouldn’t be caught dead pulling that garbage.

[Rileyreidtko-darkspear]

idk what to tell you… people like you argue for removal of the xp off system also. yet they added that because they added xp to BGs…

If you couldnt turn XP off. twinks would just find ways around it. like they always have. the expoit has been aroudn since WOTLK, its not going anywhere. People create a build and want to use it. Blizz catered to the whiners by giving XP in BGs and then removing twinks because people complained about those. oh well.

[Erelir-bleeding-hollow (Erelir)]

the only solution is to eliminate public-queue instanced pvp under max level across the board

Only twinks and their advocates make these over the top, sarcastic ‘what’s next??’ predictions.

Accusing anti-twinks of asking for gear to be removed, for strictly even games where stats don’t matter, etc. are really the only ways to make our position appear unreasonable.

It gets kind of hard to read them after a while. “What’s next? We remove PvP altogether and we just hold hands?? If you’re not onboard with twinks, this is the future you demand!”

It’s not though- relax.

[Fjall-aggramar]

Enchants don’t make the difference mate ;D

[Oopsvanish-akama]

Cant we all just play naked and have fast q’s? I wont look if you wont look.

[Grohg-hyjal]

The people we’re talking about put a ton of time and/or gold into getting the BiS gear. Something the rest of the XPon players couldn’t possibly do, because they’d have leveled out of that bracket in the process.

If you folks aren’t understanding that these twinks have an unfair advantage, then I fear for your souls and I compel you to leave this thread, because we can’t even meet on the simplest of grounds.

Besides all of that, verrrrr clearly, Blizzard thinks twinks shouldn’t be playing ‘normal’ players, hence separating them into their own queue. If you disagree, go cry to Blizzard about losing your unfair advantage to bully weaker players. In the meantime, stop cheating by exploiting a hack against Blizzard’s wishes, or risk being banned.

[Zycci-whisperwind]

Accusing anti-twinks of asking for gear to be removed, for strictly even games where stats don’t matter, etc. are really the only ways to make our position appear unreasonable.

That’s what templates do.

It gets kind of hard to read them after a while.

Kind of hard to keep reading how every twink is a big bully, how “the nature of twinking” is to cheat and exploit (even though most don’t) etc. There are extremes on both sides, so … relax.

[Areté-stormrage]

Besides all of that, verrrrr clearly, Blizzard thinks twinks shouldn’t be playing ‘normal’ players, hence separating them into their own queue

And when it was not separate, also done by Blizzard.

what is your rationale on that one

[Grohg-hyjal]

Simple, they realized their mistake and fixed it by separating them, lol. It takes a long time for developers to recognize issues, balance, test, make changes, etc.

[Areté-stormrage]

it has happened multiple times

so this a mistake ,they will check balance , test and make changes etc

classic has twinks , they have not changed the twinks who are lvl 20 have they nor the Legion only accounts

[Lannfear-dalaran]

Does your sentiment expand to legion only accounts who are well geared and smash the levelers or just the cheaters?

Did you read what I said? I think you are trying too hard to make this thread into something that it is not.

The exploit via the XP eliminator NPC that allows players to play XPon games with their XP off needs to be fixed. From the sounds of it, that is your ‘sentiment’ too, and that is great.

Everyone trying to argue about twinks, levellers, gear, anything else should go to another thread and have at it. This is about the exploit.

[Areté-stormrage]

Did you read what I said? I think you are trying too hard to make this thread into something that it is not.

The exploit via the XP eliminator NPC that allows players to play XPon games with their XP off needs to be fixed. From the sounds of it, that is your ‘sentiment’ too, and that is great.

Everyone trying to argue about twinks, levellers, gear, anything else should go to another thread and have at it. This is about the exploit.

that was to the gentlemen saying that his gripe is that it is a gear issue was wondering if you were opposed to that

lol again with the stay out of my thread like stay out of my bg?

[Lannfear-dalaran]

that was to the gentlemen saying that his gripe is that it is a gear issue

that was me, my toon got switched for some reason

[Lannfear-dalaran]

If your idea of enjoying the game comes at the detriment to all the other players because you are abusing an exploit to cheat, then yes that should stop. Even if you are a ‘dedicated’ player that enjoys gearing your toons.

How is this griping about a gear issue exactly? Please actually read my comments before responding…

[Lannfear-dalaran]

that was to the gentlemen saying that his gripe is that it is a gear issue was wondering if you were opposed to that

lol again with the stay out of my thread like stay out of my bg?

It is not stay out of my thread, but stick to the topic…

It seems most people agree the exploit should be fixed and that is great.

[Areté-stormrage]

It is not stay out of my thread, but stick to the topic…

you pick and choose who you are targeting about stay on the topic right

this is what I am addressing and I asked if you felt the same way

It takes a long time to get that gear. In attempting to do that, prior to 120, you’d level out of the bracket. By using this exploit, you can spend that time getting that gear, and remain in a bracket where nobody else is given the same amount of time (because they would simply level out of the bracket).