I’m agreeing with you they didn’t pop because twinks stopped queuing when they had to fight other twinks. The EXP on queues were however fine.
Get geared or get out doesn’t apply when you are actively engineering the situation so you will never have to fight equally geared players. That’s why your arena reference fell so flat since in arena you will inevitably have to fight equally geared players and it will become a skill issue.
I would be totally fine with normalizing all gear in BG’s.
But twinks would hate that just as much.
I’m still not sure why you don’t understand what type of game you are playing. That is the real puzzle.
No one is leveling they are PvPing and you get experience as a side effect. Some are good at it and some complain on the forums because they don’t understand what an RPG game is. The people that understand that this is an RPG and real PvP just go and acquire what they need to test their skills in PvP.
I’m not bad at PvP though, I’m smart like Thor. I’ll go and quest, get Rep for BiS enchants, do my professions, have buffs and Stormbreaker when I fight. I’ll be able to use my skill adequately. Which is what RPG game are about.
This might come as a shock but Arena players will always have a gear advantage over BG players. The reason most PvP players do Arena is to get Arena gear to do BGs and have that advantage. Which is playing the game. It’s an RPG game.
Here let me show you the full quote again.
If you still aren’t understanding it, twinks actively avoid fighting equally geared players, that why they rightly get called out for having no skill in pvp.
Which is what separating the queues proved.
I wouldn’t mind that either. Pvp should be about fun, not a grind.
And obviously twinks would hate that. Some people just want to stomp others with zero skill required.
No… they didn’t pop because not enough twinks on each team to make for a BG to form.
There are not enough twinks per bracket to make seperate queues viable.
Quit assuming they didn’t pop becasue they didn’t queue because OMG we just had to fight other twins.
No… no we did not.
I’ll tell you what they need to do, remove exp. from Bg’s, then people who want to actually PvP will be there instead of afk/bots who just take up the slot of someone who actually wants to play the game,
The full quote is irrelevant that is why I didn’t use it.
The problem is you don’t even understand what type of game you are playing. Instead of being good at the game you want to change WoW to something it’s not. They already listened to you in Legion and tried Templates which normalized gear. Guess what EVERYONE hated it! The Devs admitted it was a mistake for this type of Genre and that Templates removed the RPG aspect of the game.
No one and I mean no one wants normalized PvP in WoW. Except this small minority that doesn’t understand this is an RPG. They should be playing other games instead of an RPG.
If gear doesn’t matter there is no reason to play WoW because then it’s not an RPG anymore. That why Templates didn’t work in Legion and why Scaling didn’t work in BFA. It’s just bad for this type of game. It removes the RPG aspect and the best parts of WoW and PvP.
I know what type of game I’m playing! I only play RPG PvP games and have done that for 23 years online starting with D2. I love RPG PvP games because it’s far more complex and you need to actually play the game to be good at it.
If RPG PvP games are too hard for you and you can’t gear up, quest, get the rep you need perhaps consider trying a MOBA.
Here let me help you again.
Ok and that also means removing all class abilities right?
And can I please come to ICC on my fresh 80?
Down with all gear! I want it all fair NOW!
In fact, let’s take away all albilities, and just have us all punching one another so we can see who punches the fastest!
I mean you’re agreeing with me, they didn’t pop for twinks because twinks stopped queueing.
They were popping just fine for the EXP on queues though so it clearly wasn’t an issue in general just an issue with twinks not wanting to fight other twinks. If anything the EXP on queues were popping more since non twinks didn’t have to deal with twinks.
You seem to be confusing pve and pvp.
You aren’t helping me out. You just aren’t good at the game like the OP because he doesn’t understand why type of game you are playing. I’ve tried to explain what type of game this is. This is an RPG PvP game, the real PvP. You have no counter argument to that and continue to ignore it.
If you are getting one shot you need to get better at the game, which means playing it and attaining the gear, enchants, or whatever you need for counterplay so you can use your skills. That’s what makes WoW PvP and RPG PvP better then FPS or MOBA’s. That’s why we are here and if you aren’t here because of that… PLEASE CONSIDER YOU ARE PLAYING THE WRONG TYPE OF GAME.
It’s not this complicated. You are either into Real PvP and RPG PvP are you aren’t. However don’t try to ruin RPG PvP by removing it. We did that once and it was hated.
You have yet to explain why you are so adamantly against fighting equally geared players.
But you are right I don’t take pvp in WoW seriously at all, there are much better games for it. PvP in a wow is a for fun side game.
Doubtful. The best PvP games are RPG PvP games. Where gear and power matters. It’s the real PvP. Threads like this exist because not everyone is up for the task of real PvP.
Yet again you have yet to understand why type of game this is. This is a real PvP game an RPG game. Where you can get powerful items and vaporize your opponents. It’s awesome. That’s why we love gear based PvP because you have to play the game, go on quest, do dungeons, attain rep. All these things to attain power and own it up in PvP.
I’m done trying to get you to understand what type of game you are playing. Just stop trying to ruin WoW and turn it into something it’s not. No one wants to play a game where gear is normalized. That isn’t RPG PvP and that just isn’t fun.
I’m not feeding you anymore you just don’t get it. We are here for RPG PvP.
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*Laughs in Mastercraft Kalu’ak Fishing Pole *
That is awesome btw! I’d love to see a BG where you are owning it up with that. You basically did what I explained above where you got a God killing type weapon like Stormbreaker. Now you deserve to own it up. You understand the game you are playing! This is RPG PvP. It’s about attaining crazy power then being able to use it.
check me out, ogkttv got some vods up for you to digest already 
That’s fine, but every kill you make as a twink in pvp will now have the slight after taste of knowing you actually suck at pvp.
Sweet got a link? Maybe some people can understand how the game should be played.
Man it’s annoying when people don’t even understand the whole point of playing WoW or an RPG. Then complain on the forums because they didn’t play the game and get rolled in a BG. Maybe just maybe go out and start playing the game, get better, get gear to counter other players. Work on your build and skills.
It’s just so frustrating when this minority that hates RPG PvP wants to ruin it for the majority of players that understand what type of game WoW is. I gotta eat lunch. Cleanse my brain from the trolls.
lol they will just see a brutal clapdown on a different level when they witness it regardless of target here it is
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