Twinks are now just leaving BGs early

[Mauden-korgath (Mauden)]

Never said I was?

[Kazul-terokkar]

The one constant that has existed since the dawn of mmo gaming: pvpers are sweaty tryhards.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

[Diago-burning-blade (Diago)]

Kinda funny they separate ques around the time quest rewards can upgrade higher then looms lol.

That feel when a shields procs epic and its higher stat then your loom. feelsbad.

[Melniboné-shadow-council (Melniboné)]

So in order for this to be a fixed issue(“The twink('s)”), Casual players who are leveling through battles grounds want the Twinks either gone from bg’s or stripped of powers such as enchants/gems? And then to have some system were everyone is the same in the bg and it doesn’t matter what you wear?

I’m curious of how that game would be

[Chroesire-bleeding-hollow (Chroesire)]

I think the proposal is something closer to Legion PvP templating more than every player being exactly the same. I may be misunderstanding, though.

[Hushpup-moon-guard-116265]

I remember back in Classic, I was running at 60 dungeons still in Defias Gear because I like the look. I was made fun of and maybe me DPS was on the lower end (not that it mattered back then).

But Gear didn’t Matter AT ALL in Dungeons.
Dungeons are not BGs.

If you join a lvl 60 BG in Defias gear, you better believe you’re going to get Steamrolled and IT WOULD BE ALL YOUR FAULT, not the better geared person.

Ya know, all I have to really do to combat that argument is post World of Roguecraft. PvP should have skill be far more of a factor over gear, and secondly you were wearing that gear because you thought it looked cool and not because it’s the gear you got from running dungeons or doing level appropriate quests.

[Hushpup-moon-guard-116265]

Never understood people who level more then 1 character to max level.

“Never understood why anyone plays anything but one class.”

[Seriz-tichondrius]

I have 8 hunters of various levels, but I have over 10 characters of other classes.

[Hushpup-moon-guard-116265]

Curious statement. Twinks banned from xp bracket, with certain ilvls. Would this apply in dungeons as well. {Item level - Too high - May not enter} I’ve been a twink along time and love it. Last time we had divided bgs. I simply avoided playing my twink and leveled. First 5 levels dungeon, to gear up as well as i could. Then rolled bgs’ last five, over and over until new bracket. Twinking won’t stop ever. My advice if you wish to pvp - gear for the chance to win. Alot of peeps in forums, from the servers i play on. Complain about bg twinks, yet have War-mode on to level. Ironic?

Since people want to abuse playing x brackets as y class over and over again maybe there does need to be different ilvl groupings that takes enchants/what’s in your bags into consideration. Then people that go hardcore gearing, xp on or off both basically get into the same queues together and that supposedly would solve the queues being so long since ‘that’s the average levelers gear’.

[Fræya-sargeras]

I wish I had true statistics but Ill just go by what clearly happened patch day. Obviously there are more causal levelers and/or non twink subscriptions asking for their own bg, free of twinks. Blizzard responded and honored their request. This indicates that twinks are a minority and the loss of twink subscriptions does not outweigh the loss of theirs. I would suggest to just get over it, move on, the decision has been made.

[Dangerjosh-wyrmrest-accord (Dangerjosh)]

“I wish I had true statistics, but I dont, so here are my assumptions anyway.”

[Hushpup-moon-guard-116265]

Don’t delude yourself. When you show up with missing slots and outdated gear, you are hindering your group.

Just like people that show up with full gear but don’t play objectives and leave, causing your team to be outnumbered? and no, I’m really not; what’s causing the lopsidedness is people that OVERGEAR themselves for a bracket over and over. Otherwise why would they continuously make a character for certain brackets only to delete it instead of playing up to 119 on it? But nope, they keep doing it 19-39 because those are the levels that people have the least amount of gear to resist them and missing slots due to what quests, dungeons, and etc limit them to.

[Fræya-sargeras]

Blizzard is a business. A good business doesn’t make decisions based on personal feelings or drama. Like any good business they did a cost benefit analysis and this was their decision. Its not rocket science.

[Dangerjosh-wyrmrest-accord (Dangerjosh)]

The only part of your reply you didn’t make up is that Blizzard is a business.

edit: and that it’s not rocket science…because it’s not, it’s pure speculation/BS

[Hushpup-moon-guard-116265]

If my toon is less than a month old, has less than 100 quests completed, not one single item from the ah, and three chants that my level 52 zandalari chanting skill made. I killed 3 rares at 118 for my azerite pieces and qued for like 5-10 timewalking dungeons to get my other slots. How am I unfair to you? I have no grandfathered gear. I have no top tier chants (whatever that means). So, in just a few hours only following the rules that I’m presented with. I made multiple toons that are “unfair” to play against you. The moral of this story is twinks are being punished because you people are lazy. We are being punished for people who don’t pvp or if they do refuse to put any effort in. cry nonstop in /bg about how everything is unfair and constantly utter the “just let them win” nonsense. Cry all you want blizzard cannot make you a better player. If im going to be punished because of your laziness Ill just make disposable twinks and farm you. Im still geared and competent and youre still lazy and in whites. The song remains the same.

Yet can’t figure out how to hit reply or quote. “Less than a month old” Has the STV fishing event hat. Mark of honor trinket(requires marks of honor to get), and a BoE blue with a higher pricing with actually some conveniently good twink enchants. Yeah, good luck convincing me you’re actually a new player and not an alt of an experienced one.

[Hushpup-moon-guard-116265]

That is where the next pressure will be applied.
“Whites should be enough, combined with missing slots”.
Not hard to see it forming,

It is the average leveling gear up to 30+, so yes it should be.

[Illmode-blackrock]

How’s day 3? Tears still just as salty or are they watering out?

[Raezar-emerald-dream]

Make deserter debuff account wide. Problem solved.

[Fræya-sargeras]

Do you think this decision was made on a whim? Do you think they didn’t take into consideration what happened the last time the bg’s were separated? Do you think they didn’t already predict the forum responses you see here? Do you think they didn’t take into consideration how many subscriptions would rage quit and how that would affect their bottom line? Of course they did and still what did they do? smh