Twilight dev lol

500k twilight devs are killing me in arenas. I have 550k hp. What do I do to beat this extremely skilled gameplay?
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Pretty sure 500k TD required it to be coming from A) a tank and B) a tank with a TON of corruption. Like 100+ corruption levels of lots of corruption. Pretty sure it’s a meme strat and if you just hit the tank they’ll explode instantly.

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It’s only gonna get worse when people realize they can roll a tank and stack td because of the stacking corruption resistance from the cloak.
Imaging a vengeance dh with meta and bm trinket popped, sitting at like 5-6 stacks of td.

They will literally have over 1.5 mil hp and 1 shot you randomly.

Oh, and anima when td procs. Or instead of a bm trinket just use the mecha cycle or drestegath.

Mark my words, tanks will need huge nerfs before the end of BFA or it will be meta to play them.

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just faced something similar. TD did 333k damage to my partner. The tank had 900k health and took almost no damage. We lost pretty quickly. Damage from corruption was unhealable.

Meme spec or not, there isn’t a counter to 333k damage.

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This is true it does suck when Destro Tanks hit you with 300k Chaos Bolts. Yet they still haven’t nerfed the broken Destro Tanks yet that can just rapid fire out these big bolts.

Imagine talking about TD procs that aren’t even good in PvP when Destro can do more with Chaos Bolt at will over and over while taking less damage.

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two different problems man. I don’t like CBs hitting for that hard, but at least there is a precursor. I know when the lock pops a cooldown to expect big damage.

Do you understand that?

If you want to make another topic about CBs being broke, by all means. No argument from me.

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Ok but do you also understand why TD is so awful in Arena? That since it is random it might hit nothing in an Arena match. It might not go off or when it does it just hits air. Or it procs when you are kiting or LoS. Or it procs and the enemy isn’t in range. Or it procs and the enemy is in range and just moves out of the way of the wiggly path.

Trying to stack TD and using high corruption for hopes of big damage is just a failed strat that isn’t viable. As Prot I won’t be buying any TD corruptions when we get vendors. I will be buying all the other corruptions that are just way better for PvP and Arena.

I have tried 24% TD for BGs and you are more likely to hit someone in them as they line up like Bowling pins but even then it still isn’t good. I will be stacking Versa Amps, Gushing, Surging, Echoing, Tents literally anything but TD.

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Yea I’ve seen some people rockin’ TD but it almost always misses me. Tentacles are consistently much more effective.

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Yea I use T5 Tents in Arena and BGs as Prot. They are far far better as they have unlimited Range and you can actually Stun someone when you get a proc. Imagine trying to kill a ranged target like Mage with TD ROFL… Or hitting a mobile target like Hunter, Monk, Rogue etc…

Then the TD procs and hits nothing… It’s like playing with ZERO corruption if it does nothing. That just isn’t even a viable option not to mention you have to have 60+ active corruption and then you just die to your own corruption hoping for luck? That isn’t a good Arena strat.

Even as Prot I still rather have options like Gushing or Versa amps. There will never be this mass problem of Tanks with TD in Arena :rofl:

it’s not a failed strat though if it’s working. just because it doesn’t hit 100% of the time, doesn’t mean it’s bad. If you can get 300k+ hits even one time… its gg.

The RNG doesn’t matter here. If it’s possible to hit that hard in an arena match, it needs to be looked at. It’s not like I can exactly run away from a tank given their control.

I also fought a blood dk that did a million more damage then my dps… my friend is gear as well. We weren’t even trying to focus the dk… but just the spread pressure and his corruptions were enough to oom me in a very short time.

for most dps I think it’s a bad idea. For tanks though, they already have a lot of control and keeping a player slowed is an easy task. Before corruptions were even a thing, guardian was viable.

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Ok and how many games did it take you to get one 300k hit? 5, 10, 15? It’s just not consistent and it will never hit mobile and ranged comps with any success. Are these comps going to stand in range and not move out of the way for you? No they won’t. Did it proc at the right time when the enemy had no defensive up or versa stacks? So the fact is TD isn’t hitting at all or is effective which makes it an unviable corruption to stack to benefit any consistent win conditions.

You want to have controlled on call damage or sustain pressure and TD isn’t it.

Tanks though should be stacking viable corruptions that offer pressure. TD isn’t one of them. Echoing would be better if you are gonna use a % one. However Versa amps, Gushing, Tents would still be better on most Tanks since you still need uptime for corruption and not random luck of TD where you win 1 match because of it out of 20.

TD just isn’t good for Arena and it never will be because of the mechanics of it.

I really don’t think you guys realize how worthless TD is in Arena. Also TD procs on damage taken more than given. I have used TD in a skirm and it proced while riding in on my mount as the TD went off. That was it for the match. That one proc riding my mount. Yea… It’s soooooo good. :joy:

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you’re missing the point.

it doesn’t have to work everywhere and it doesn’t have to work 100% of the time. what if he only takes it vs some comps? What if the tank ONLY takes it versus disc priests because he know he can sit on them and they can’t get away?

Does that make it any less wrong?

what are you on man?

seriously. you want to say it’s not good but people are CLEARLY using it.

I don’t think you realize people can swap corruptions out depending on what they’re facing. It’s almost like… it might be better versus some teams… and not others.

go away troll.

I am not missing the point I am never taking TD as an option in Arena as Tank. So if the Disc Priest fears the Tank and TD goes off in the fear the TD goes off in the wrong direction. If the Priest MC’s you and TD goes off. If the Priest gets LoS and it goes off from a Dot on the Tank.

You are missing the point TD goes off from damage taken! Which means it’s really unpredictable. Any dot, attack, CC on the tank at any time can make it go off when the target isn’t near you and then it’s just wasted! TD doesn’t proc often so most matches you will never hit another player with it. All you have to do is kite the Tank and keep dots up to trigger random TDs so its wasted.

Yea some people are using it but it’s no where close to the best Tank corruption. If you can choose any Tank corruption TD wouldn’t be it.

I don’t think you realize that it is terrible except that 1% of the time it works. You aren’t winning matches stacking TD because it just isn’t going to land every match making it really sub par.

It’s not good and Tanks stacking TD will never be a problem :rofl:

Games with tanks are usually very long and if a healer doesn’t go oom by then a couple TDs for an absurd amount of dmg will almost certainly happen. You do not have to be directly in front of them or even near the tank either. It’s an instant win and you can’t counter it. There’s no way of knowing what level of corruption they have before the match.

Friend took a 500k TD last night at 2500cr.

You’re just bad.

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Sure there is since its very clear if someone is stacking corruption it screams out please train me or spite me :rofl: Not to mention you can see corruption debuffs on them which is why some ppl stun other players in the eye so they take corruption dmg then burst.

It’s a fluke win and you can easily counter it. Why chose a fluke win option when you can just use better corruptions? It makes no sense.

If TD didn’t go off on damage taken it would be better but since it can randomly go off from any Dot, CC etc that just means TD procs have no control and won’t be reliable to hit targets. Tanks can just use Versa Amps, Gushing, Echoing, Tents instead and actually have a corruption that works every match.

Seriously if a Tank is running TD just root him, dot him and CC… TD will proc then its on ICD… You act like there is no counterplay. It’s a really bad corruption and you are bad if you get hit by it all the time.

PS - If I can fight a Tank in melee range and avoid TD you can too.

idk why people are even arguing with abomb to begin with, the man has no interest in a fun pvp experience and only argues things that will play the game for him

tanks should be viable in pvp!
also, all dps should be squishy and free kills!

500k TD fine!
200k bolt bad!

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300-400k bolts are bad and they are sub 1 sec cast on demand that are unavoidable. Broken Destro Tanks doing the highest dmg in Arena when ever they want compared to random TD procs that go off once every 20 matches. Good comparison. :man_facepalming:

With that said and I will repeat it again!! No % damage or healing should be in this game EVER!! Remove it all!!! Looking at you Gpie! All % abilities are just really bad design. So remove them all thanks don’t think anyone said they were good for the game ever. Please remove Gpie and all these garbo % dmg at the same time as TD deal?

I was just pointing out how bad TD actually is and how to counter it or just not even ever get hit by it. So it’s not going to be a problem but with that said like all other % dmg in PvP it shouldn’t exist.

You can switch your gear when you’re not playing a cleave I suppose.

If a Tank is playing cleave or any comp though he should be running Echoing with Torment trinket if the Tanks has a ton of HP and wants consistent damage that is meaningful. Then Drest for finisher.

TD isn’t even the best % dmg corruption for Tanks. It’s really fun in PvE and sometimes to try and cheese in BGs but just not practical for Arena really because of the mechanics of it.

I am looking forward to getting Versa Amps and Gushing on my Prot personally maybe one Master amp for damage and mitigation. I will save TD for PvE and use the better PvP corruptions.