If you want to play wow you go one option of not wanting to “pirate”.
While blizzard sells us one thing server access nothing more. They don’t sell us bot free nor do they sell us community service that’s a bonus most companys toss in as keeps people around but when you got a monopoly on what people want to play you don’t need to. They also don’t sell you balance or any state of the game only server access.
The fact they are still setting record profit numbers shows there business calls are correct.
imagine if you were a creator, with a vision about your game. then imagine getting bombarded with thousands of requests to change your vision and expression. I say no , if you don’t like it move on. your $15 are not enough to get creator access
If we were talking about some small indie game with a few hundred players, I’d agree. However, I’d say this game is more of a product than an artistic expression. Since it’s a product, customer feedback should be taken into consideration.
I dont think its this at all. I personally just think they dont give a **** about WOTLK. all their eggs are in the Dragonflight basket, because thats what truly makes them revenue, and has prospects for the future. They have to know that cata will see a big decrease in interest, and theres only so many times they can revive vanilla and start all over again. No sense in changing anything when the golden age is almost over.
imagine looking at something like WOTLK with its skeleton crew and bare minimum effort and thinking “hmm yes this is an artistic creation with a very clear vision”
l m a o
Seems lots of people have taken this advice because Dragonflight’s sub numbers are dropping off so hard that they’re already offering a free access weekend less than 4 months into the expac.
Don’t think we have any data to support how well or poorly DF is being received other than anecdotal bits and pieces.
That being said what we do know is it sold poorly, something we suspected given they never released sale numbers, and was later confirmed by their quarterly report. I think they’re on like their third or fourth promo at this point. IIRC if you bought DF before like early Jan you got 30 days of free game time, and also at one point we had DF access for like a week or so. Then they put it on sale for 20% off which is still going for another few days, and of course we’re back to having DF access for the weekend again.
So yeah, clearly they are hurting so there’s a moderate chance that sub numbers have dropped off, but no way of knowing how much all these promos are sub related or sales related. People who track the metrics are fairly confident WoW’s sub has been on the decline for a long time, but that hasn’t stopped BFA and SL from making just as much money as previous quarters via other transactions so it’s hard to pin it on all of this being on lack of subs rather than lack of big sales that have been carrying their profits for a very long time.
Honestly…imagine saying and thinking this when Dragonflight is a clear referendum on how they’ve been designing WoW for the past 4-6 years. That’s not even speculative, they’ve on record all over the place about how they know they have to change because the way they’ve been designing WoW was failing. I mean it got so bad it actually forced their hand to give us Classic which says a lot about how desperate they were to do something to gin up some support.
I’m not going to white knight them and say that they’ve always listened to the playerbase (because lol), but taking in feedback, filtering it out, and iterating on it is part of their job and they know it which makes your stance actively ridiculous.
more like twice. they did this a few months ago I’d swear.
retail did too much damage with bfa then sl. lore shot to crap, mechanics shot to crap and they even cut corners on the famed blizzard cutscenes (garrosh’s death scene was better rendered by people who hacked the files ffs) …to mess that up. A hat trick of fail.
I need wow till d4 and others hit later this year. they had me on that hook. and I play classic more lol. I jsut say hi my one df level cap once in a while. or hammer out a level of 2 on a DF rogue…as I wait for WG pops if around and hour away lol.
that hook gets pulled soon. I’ve done “battlepass” like games no battle pass. I don’t care if it takes 3 weeks longer to reach a goal in d4.
in d3 you weren’t beating the no lifes week 1 on ladders no battlepass setup at all. unless you had less of a life than them. which would be scary and sad to me. unless a pro gamer since that is how they get paid.
I mean I know you’re just trying to stir the pot at this point, but it’s my 6 hour a week raiding simulator and if I hadn’t dumped over a year’s worth of retail gold in WoW time I probably wouldn’t be here still.
So you do play all versions of the game, invested the time for gold and managed to play it for “free”. Keep enjoying raiding , I do to. No pot stirring, just tired of exaggerations and drama posts
I haven’t played Retail seriously since Castle Nathria, which is back when I dumped my gold and am basically riding out Classic with it. I’ve done a few random activities to kill some time, but nothing extensive.
It’s not an exaggeration that the game is in an actively bad spot. Its systems have been mocked, the story has been mocked, and pretty much every metric players have tried to measure indicates a declining playerbase. The silver lining for WoW is that it’s remained profitable, but appears to be propped up by other services bring in that money. Then again it’s been confirmed DF sale numbers were poor so really it’s just being realistic at this point.
Not to say you can’t have fun with the game or you can’t get something out of it. For what it’s worth DF sounds like it’s doing ok so the game isn’t dying any time soon either, but retail is currently having a coming to jesus moment in how the game is being handled because what they’ve been doing for the last handful of expansions because player reception to them has been vocally negative. And you were here saying people don’t really have the right to ask for changes. It’s just a nonsensical argument.
Considering people have been crying about literally YEARS about the customer service… I think people should stop with “If we make enough noise there will be results,” just simply stop supporting the company. If your partner was abusive, and they kept abusing you, would you stay with them? No, you’d try to get out. Well, time to do it. Get out.
Blizzard doesn’t care, and they never will truly care. Only time we’ll see changes is if sub numbers go down too much and even then, it’ll be broken band-aid fixes that actually might help fix existing issues but cause new issues and then they’ll completely go unresponsive again. Showing that just like a DA relationship, they never do REALLY change. The classic community is BOTTOM priority for them. Either accept it, or unsub. I personally, have chosen to unsub and am spending a great deal of time petting my turtle instead.
The only thing they could do to persuade me to try DF is to make it completely and permanently free (other than the sub). I will never pay for one of their expansions again. Mists was the last time and that was a bridge they burned beyond recognition. There’s a reason most people who really love WoW play either Classic or Pservers, and if you look at the timing of when Blizz got on with Craptivision, it seems pretty obvious who was deciding what direction the game should take–and who is responsible for the year-over-year precipitous fall of player counts (and therefore, subs as well).
still better than your posts