I know. I was trying to see how many of you clowns would take it seriously.
Rated battlegrounds will solve this issue but Iām afraid it would mean making a change. One step closer to the dreaded retail.
/shudder
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der iz guud tinz frum da chaengez. Der is nub guud chaengez. diz chaenge wood haalp.
Who are we to decide? None of this matters in the grander scheme of things. I got to rank 10 for the title that I held for 2 weeks. Thats it. The rest of it gets replaced by ZG if not instantly in AQ.
Why should players be penalised for grouping? The best teams will still win unopposed, you aim to hurt the less skilled players that just want to queue with friends.
If you want to avoid premades you can;
- Queue to another BG that is not currently the BG weekend.
- Play a lower level battleground.
- Queue AV.
In 2 weeks time, AV will be the BG holiday weekend. You will have both AB and WSG with far less pugs joining.
Yeah i have been enjoying doing 59 bracket AB because thereās no premades, except of course last night we had a multiboxer with 5 mages on our team and we 5 capped the horde instantly, other than that though it is a lot more fun of an experience than anything else at 60 so far.
Iām curious what the queues like in that bracket, and how close to around-the-clock you get games. Do you have a sense for the overall queuing population compared to the 40ās?
How are you penalized?
I came to WoW classic mainly for the PvP and so I pvped from low level and as I was levelingā¦ Hot exalted with WSg by 50ās
And I have nor regret it. As fun as WSG was in the lower Brackets, it is only half or less that fun at 60, because half or less of the time we can properly fight on equal footing Pug vs Pug at 60.
Pug vs Premade is 99% one sided and not fun at all.
I know some people say get a team or make your own. but I would prefer if Blizz Devs just gave us separate queues, so when I get in to a Team or make my own I will be fighting other equally prepared teams but when I queue solo to form a Pig I will be fighting another PUG.
The way to play it is not the same too. There is different fun in a Pug Team vs Pug Team and different fun in Premade Team vs Premade Team.
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Thereās no skill rating. If you cut out pugs, those who group will face the elite teams more often. I vsed a chinese guild 7 times today and they are unbelievably low skilled, they perform worse than most pugs.
If you provide incentive to queue solo queue to avoid the better premades, only quality teams will choose to group, making the pool of teams smaller.
We perform well, thereās only 2 Alliance teams we regularly lose to but we are improving. They just have more experience.
So you are saying you do not want to fight other pre mades because they are good.
āIf you provide incentive to queue solo queue to avoid the better premades, only quality teams will choose to group, making the pool of teams smallerā
This statement proves the need to separate the queues. The NEED for pugs to be there is for pre mades to farm. Without them pre mades have no value. This is what you are saying. Well I do not like being fodder so I advocate for this change.
No, Iām not saying that at all. Like I said my team performs quite well. Iām merely pointing out how this suggestion favors solo play at the sake of those who group while not addressing the real problem at all.
I face pugs that are better than some premades. It proves this is a skill rating issue.
The few teams that do defeat us easily are the only teams that I actually learn from. I donāt wish to avoid them, thatās how I improve as a player.
Maybe they are all 7-8 years old? With COVID et all you know kids are home now playing games.
Tell me how it favors solo play? You are taking what you think will happen as fact. I am talking an apples argument to your oranges. They fundamentally are different groups. A pre made is a hand selected group. You know what you have and you min max it. A solo queue is thrown in with a RANDOM group and you have no idea what is going to be put on your plate. Pre made group vs Random Group. This is why we need to separate the queues. Not some emotional argument on how pre mades might slow down because the game is more balanced.
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Itās the weekend, dude. Besides would why would I assume. They do play alot I doubt they are that young.
weekend or not, school in my state is cancelled this year. Everyone is sitting at home now unless you are an essential person.
Did you not read my post? You wish to avoid the better premade teams, while those who group who are not particularly the best will continue to face them.
Basically you wish to make solo queue casual mode. Itās not a fair solution for those who merely want to queue with friends.
Fair point but this guild has been together since launch. The current pandemic isnāt relevant here.
You are trying to tell me what I wish for when I have explained it to you. I told you the fundamental differences in the group makeups. You are projecting what you perceive might happen in the future while I am stating the problem at hand. This is why I advocate for this change. I could care less how it affects the meta as the meta will just min/max to the best with what they have.
Pug vs Pug will not face premades, that is a fact. I donāt understand why you think thatās my opinion.
Thatās not necessarily true. Iām currently in a AB group with 6 shaman and only 3 warrior. Sometimes you work with what you got. Not every guild or group has access to a perfect comp.
This is your mistake. You assume that all that group queue are following the meta.
These arenāt opinions. What exactly am I projecting?
Who is in your pre made is not the point. The point is that you pick the group. You know who is in it. Most pre mades try to get the best group they can. Often asking for certain roles to be filled.
I do not know where you pulled the pug vs pug will not face pre mades from, that is what I am advocating and what you are against.
āWhat exactly am I projecting?ā You are projecting doom and gloom that pre made groups will only face other pre made groups. You fear only the best will face the best. This is projection.