Trolls kicking people on the last boss of a dungeon need to be actioned

Problem is that intent is very hard to prove. Unless of course they were foolish enough to say “thanks, now that work is done we can swap you out for our friends sucker!”.

That won’t stop people from kicking. The last time I played retail was back in SL and over the years I’ve had people kick tanks over small reasons. Tank wasn’t pulling fast enough, or was undergeared and could only do small pulls, it didn’t stop them from kicking them. one of these people who were initiating the vote got so angry over small pulls, that they were practically foaming at the mouth. They were cussing and trash talking them from the beginning of the dungeon. Some people are just flat out rude.

Problem is intent doesn’t matter. Everyone has a ticket to initiate a vote kick with no repercussion. If we’re to define abuse we need to look at those who have been abusing it which would be accounts with an excessive amount of vote kicks.

The amount should either be a blanket amount you can use across all your characters over a certain period of time and once you’ve used them… you can no longer initiate till the next cycle of time comes.

Or Blizzard defines what an excessive amount actually is, if an account has an atrocious amount of vote kicks… like over a hundred… they’re actioned somehow.

You’re not getting kicked a lot by a small group of trolls who keep doing it to people over and over again, you’re getting kicked a lot by a very large group of people who don’t do it that often but for whatever reason decided they don’t want to play with you anymore.

A limit on how often an individual person can kick won’t change you getting kicked a lot.

And there are already cooldowns built in for people who do kick too often.

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Clicking no is just as fast as clicking yes

according to blizzard, there is nothing wrong with the vote kick system. Nothing to see here. :rofl:

I warned him at the start, he did it again, by the third time I had enough of it.

Back in Legion my hunter was invited to a 4-man guild run of a mythic+ run. I got a real sense of douchiness from them but was going along, pulling my weight just fine with zero mistakes. Just before the last boss they laughed, went on with “guild 4 life” and such, and kicked me. But I had enough time to misdirect to the healer and spray and pray all the mobs they had skipped before I faded away. Fun times.

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There should be a mandatory report (even if it’s from a drop-down menu) that those who initiate the ‘kick’ have to do so the person kicked knows why they were kicked.

You can try to report it, but they made their stance on it clear.

Which is subject to change. It’s not a stone tablet. They can change it if they wanted to. If enough people are getting griefed. Unless they carved that out of stone and post it for all to see then it can be changed.

I wonder how often it happens to OP, if that really happened

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This isn’t happening.

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One thing worth mentioning is that “any reason” also means “bad reasons” or “reasons I don’t agree with”

I think even with logically sound reasons for kicking, the person being kicked will rarely be inclined to agree with the justification. Being kicked doesn’t feel good, ever, and I think really that’s what threads like this are about.

People are denying that there is trolls out there that get a kick of trolling for the lols and giggles and hehe’s and haha’s. Vote kick is not a immune to that. In fact they will probably find a way to push it too far and Blizzard will have to do something about it.

You think vote kick is immune to trolls getting a thrill of getting a laugh from kicking someone out?

I don’t think many people are denying that this exists, I think they’re questioning the frequency that it happens.

Way more often than not, people who get kicked aren’t the victims of trolls just kicking for lols and giggles and hehe’s and haha’s and thrills. They were kicked for a reason that they either don’t understand (because people are notoriously bad at being self aware), don’t like, or don’t agree with.

And if they allow you to read the kick reason that you got kicked for and you find it the reason they put in is “Trollolololol.” I guess that is a legit kick and we should just accept it and move on. Okay got it.

Well we still don’t know. If someone has a really bad tank and it’s obvious the tank is really bad, they could put the script to the Bee Movie in the reason box and it would probably be obvious to everyone in the group why they’re kicking the tank.

The reason is designed to let other people know why they’re voting on a kick, it’s not to let the kicked person know why they got kicked. If the group knows why they’re kicking, the reason box is useless no matter what they put.

I mean yeah, this is exactly what you should do when you get kicked.

Plus I’m not sure why you’re acting like you know what people put when they kick you. Most of the time it’s probably “bad” or “afk”, not “trollolololol”. You don’t get to act like “trollololol” is the most common reason given.

I don’t think that just because you can be kicked for any or no reason, that people aren’t kicking others just for the fun of it. My anecdotal evidence tells me that this doesn’t happen as much as people make it out to be. It’s why I wondered how many times this happens to OP or if this thread is a knee jerk reaction to something that happened one time.

We have a lot of “anecdotal evidence”, at a certain point it stops being anecdotal and starts being survey evidence approaching statistical evidence that it doesn’t happen a lot.

The problem is the people talking the loudest about the reasons people get kicked, are the ones that are getting kicked the most, and they don’t know the reason for it.

People that see far more kicks than they personally experience are generally a more reliable source of why people are getting kicked, because they generally see the reason far more often.

I mean you already touched on it, even if they were to somehow know the reason, they are the most biased party in the process.