Transmog in Wotlk

Why not? these #changes would possibly make the old raids and even world see some traffic, when otherwise it wouldnt. Tell me how transmog in wotlk is bad for the game.

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Someone would have to develop it. Tell us how that would work well with the current state things.

For what its worth… I’m not really opposed to it. It won’t be a priority

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transmog was in cataclysm so you’ll have to wait until then.

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If you want it, you can probably get an addon that gives it to you, but I really dislike transmog personally.

Why? Because it allows people to make their current gear look better, even if it isn’t, it reduces new gear to stats only (potentially), and it obfuscates what people are wearing in PVP situations (which is game changing).

But mostly I just don’t like it :slight_smile:

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I don’t think it has anything to do with PVP. This is an imaginary scenario.

In PvP we always finish our opponent fast, whatever gear they have doesn’t change the way we approach our targets. A rogue that opens with Cheapshot will open with a Cheapshot. None stupid would open with Ambush unless the target is significantly lower level. The gear set is irrelevant in PVP, none changes rotation based on the enemy’s look.

I don’t think any pro arena players would make their gear looks bad. They have pride and will don their hard-earned PVP gear to show off.

What is the downside of this?

Absolutely does.

Melee cleave queues into WLD, can normally train down lock/pet and hard swaps if druid wastes feral charge and puts themselves right next to melee. But if that warrior is wearing rep gear while the warlock is wearing full S2? You can full train him down, can’t do that if you know that he’s wearing full S2.

Another scenario is if you see that you see that druid is in cloth PvE items, you can full commit to them more than you would otherwise wouldn’t have.

EDIT: Another one come next season, you queue into a ret during S3. Is he wearing full S3 items? He’s gonna have over 400 resil. But if they’re wearing a mix of S1/S2 items because they’ve only stared gear at end of season 2 start of season 3 so they’re gonna have either reduced S2 arena points or S1 from honor, they might have 250 at most resil. They’re gonna be a way more attractive kill target than if they were full S3.

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We usually use HP because we don’t know all the gear sets of all classes. Maybe the pros can tell the resil enemies have. I wonder how they do it in shadowlands PVP

People are all wearing the same gear now. This is the same dumb excuse Classic people gave and by the time it was over all classes wore the same tier sets and all looked the same. All your gear is, is stats. That’s literally it. That’s why people like transmog because it makes gear reflect your personality and likes over tier B is better than Tier A, except it’s worse than Tier C.

As for pvp, what kind of fool charges in on someone based on how gear looks? This is as stupid as picking a fight with a girl because she’s wearing pigtails and dresses in all pink, only to complain she’s a black belt in Brazilian jiu Jitsuand why wasn’t she wearing her combat uniform?

Honestly judging how you pvp based on what gear someone might be wearing is equally as stupid as judging how well a person can pve by using gearscore and tallying up ilvl.

Partially HP but its mostly Class+Covenant choice. Like example earlier, are you gonna sit on a Night Fae affliction lock or are you gonna sit on the the warrior that’s Kyrian? What if that lock is Venth and the war is Necrolord?

In SL if you’re facing someone that has way too low of HP value you can usually guess they’re getting a boost which then you see what their carry partner is and see if you need to take out the threat or easy target first, which has more of a relation to class/spec/covenant/person themselves rather than just their HP value.

Oh and map choice, a melee cleave might have better chances making swaps onto a MW on a map like Lorderon, but something like Blade’s Edge or Mugambala forgeeeet about it.

for a change we don’t need…

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Says you. So it means nothing.

Because a lot of people want to live in a version of the game that existed over 10 years ago. People state certain things are “game changing” but let’s be real… the community itself is “game changing” because this classic community acts and behaves absolutely nothing like the community actually acted back when these expansions were retail.

Also, some of the classic community is just against any changes. For example… a few actually think barber shops are game changing. However, barber shops will be added in Woltk along with achievements. Which I can’t wait. :blush:

I want my PvP mount from rading the opposite factions major cities and killing the leader. Which I’m hoping this community will still group up for it like we did back in the day.

If we can’t get dual spec here you’re sure as hell not going to get transmog in wrath.

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As it’s only cosmetic no idea. Wotlk items look way worse than tbc ones so it would not really be a bad addition.

It’s a massive change. When you interact with the community within the game, a player in full T5 JUMPS out at you at a glance in contrast to those in drab quest blues and greens.

This is by design. It’s a huge part of the game’s reward system. Players want to stand out and be rocognized by their peers for their accomplisments.

Transmog makes all of that go away, to where, at a glance, you can’t tell the difference between a crappy alt in blues and greens and a hard-core end game raider.

It’s one of the WORST features ever added to the game, IMO, and one of the pillars of retail WoW fail.

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Most of the locks in shatt Are wearing full T4 or partial t5, pvp locks are all wearing t5 lookalike armor. Everyone ends up looking the same, it happened in Classic, it’s happening now.

You should always assume on a pvp server that you’re going to lose/win based on your skill or what class you are. If and undead rogue jumps an alliance priest it’s pretty much over for the priest regardless of whatever the rogue is wearing.

Besides almost all servers are listing to one side being dominant so telling “what a person is wearing” virtually has no meaning. In arena/BGs you should have more awareness than a general sight of your target.

I swear these excuses are as lazy and goofy as the people who expect to have the game played for them. It’s hardly the worst feature, good grief.

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And I think the transmog people are selfish and short-sighted. Sure, they want to play dressup and look exactly how I want to look. But they don’t understand or don’t care how this feature significantly changes community interaction.

The funny thing is, these people want to change their appearance so they can make a fashion statement, right? But the actual result is that transmog makes appearance no longer matter anymore. If you can’t tell anything about a player by looking at them, then there is no reason to even look at them or pay attention to what they are wearing.

Transmog is just gross. It’s an awful, awful feature, IMO. It’s absence is one of the best things about Classic, IMO.

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We’re just sharing opinions. You may like something that I do not and vice versa.

And that is OK. :slight_smile:

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Terrible idea. I miss the days when seeing what people were actually using mattered. It represented their strength, their commitment and accomplishments. Not to mention suddenly players will be rolling on gear they wouldn’t otherwise just to unlock transmogs. That’ll open up a whole can of worms.

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I like the idea of Transmog but it was implemented horribly in WoW, & screwed up the game on various levels because of the way it was implemented.

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