Trade scamming using a WeakAura script

There is a script based scam going on abusing the reduced batching window. The target puts an item in for trade, hits the green button to “trade” and when you put something in, instantly removes and accepts the trade/gold/item.

It happened to me yesterday for 10 black lotuses. It happened to another guildmate a few moments later for a stack of Flasks and it happened to several strangers standing around with various high price and high ticket items.

I petitioned blizzard and their official response was they don’t care.

So I guess we can all use scripts in game to scam people out of items before they have a chance to even do anything about it? Anyone know where to obtain these scripts, and if one were to obtain them, should one post them on the forums since Blizzard doesn’t seem to care that you use them?

Seems like a win-win for scammers: you get to get any item you want and then mail those items to a third person so if Blizz does (unlikely) ban the account, you get to keep the items because addressing scammers is too hard for them I guess?

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This was NOT their official response.

Couchy

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Screenshot, please.

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imgur. com/a/rPcGTs8

They won’t let me post the SS directly.

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“I will be taking a look into the reported player and taking any appropriate actions against them.”

That is a pretty long way from “they don’t care”. You might be angry, but be patient. Optimistically, you’ll probably get back what you lost.

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In the same ticket they said they won’t be restoring any lost items, which is their policy now.

It’s a pretty weak policy to standby as well, if you’re going to allow tons of botters, exploiters, and scripters to play your game and allow them to constantly scam there should be better protection for the player.

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Again, optimistically, I would think that after an in-depth examination of the situation, the mitigating circumstances of being the victim of what amounts to a hack would motivate responsible GMs to return the lost/stolen items.

The ticket in question specifically states “I am sorry to say that we are unable to restore the items lost in this incident for you”

and then he marked the ticket as answered, he didn’t say anything about that outcome changing as a result of what any investigation finds, they don’t restore anything unless you can restore it yourself with the self service tool.

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Yeah, I get it; again, being optimistic, I would hope that under review of the situation, the player will have a favorable outcome.

Yeah meaning I can safely use this hack to scam items from people without recourse AND knowing I’m totally screwing over the player as well!

I’d hold off on being overly angry. Obviously if it is an issue that folks are reporting, it’ll get addressed. Ideally, when it does, you’ll get your items back.

Take the high road. :slight_smile:

If you’re really scared about trades, get the trader to post the items at the auction for you to purchase. /shrug

Pretty obviously what these people are doing are using throw away accounts/botted characters to use these scripts to make quick gold to either sell or use on the AH to transfer gold before they get banned or locked out.

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They no longer return what was scammed from you. They delete it from the bags of whoever ended up with it, and they suspend/ban the scammer, but you do not get your items/gold back. Which sucks, and is legitimately infuriating. I would support subby if that issue was the one he posted about.

Couchy

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Just because he didn’t get the items back doesn’t mean there were no consequences.

This is my understanding of this scam:
This has happened to me before where another player (scammer) has tried to scam me out of a few Idol of the Suns. This is not due to any batching changes, but in how the trade window works when there is no gold in the trade window. When there is no gold in the trade window, there is no confirmation dialog that pops up asking you to confirm the trade. Blizzard should 100% change this so that a confirmation dialog pops up on any trade and there will be much much less people being scammed in this fashion. Also I am not blaming you for this happening as it is hard to notice if you are not looking out for it in the first place.

What the script/weakaura/whatever does is it puts gold in the trade window and when you put an item in your side of the trade window, it instantly removes the gold and hits accept. It depends on you also instantly hitting accept after you put the items in the window expecting the gold to still be there like it was 0.1 seconds ago.

The way to prevent this from happening again in the future (or in the first place if you read this beforehand) is whenever you are trading with someone you do not know, put the items in the trade window, then just wait (at least a few seconds). Make sure they hit accept with the gold in the trade window first before you hit accept. If it is a scammer they will instantly remove the gold and hit “accept trade” right after you put the items in the trade window.

A legitimate buyer will never remove the gold instantly like that the split second you put your items in the window and press accept that fast. You can even try it a few times with them. If it doesn’t work with 0 gold, they will then try again with some gold, but usually a denomination of 10 less than what was agreed upon (Example: they agree to buy item for 840g, try first with removing all 840g and accepting, then try again after a few attempts with putting 840g, then making it 84g). Once they realize you will not accept the trade with the no gold in there they will cancel and leave the group without saying anything.

The safest thing to do when trading your items for someone else’s gold is to put the item(s) in the trade window and just WAIT. Make sure they hit accept with the correct amount of gold in the trade before you accept. If you do not ever accept the trade right after putting the items in the trade window, they cannot take the items from you for no gold if you are paying attention to and have the knowledge of this scam.

This is not so much something to look out for when you are buying an item because whenever there is any amount of gold in the trade window, a confirmation dialog will pop up every time. Blizzard knows about this scam by now and all they have to do is make a confirmation dialog pop up on every trade, not just ones that have gold involved when the accept button is pressed.

Hope this helps you and others to better understand what happened and how to avoid it in the future. I would not go ahead with acquiring this script/weakaura and doing it for yourself because you too will just end up getting the items removed and get that account banned only losing time and money for yourself and losing time and items for another player to get scammed like you did. It is definitely not allowed, but it does target a vulnerability in the trade window that Blizzard really really should have fixed by now.

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no, they never discuss moderation with third parties.
that scammer’s infraction is between himself and Blizzard. the victim has no reason to know the outcome.

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So, you (the target) put something in on your side of the trade window, after only seeing the scammer put some gold in, on their side of the trade window but never lit up green? After you put something in, and the scammer never lit up green, you made yourself green, first, and that’s when the scammer auto-cleared their gold (from their side of the trade window) which won’t un-green you (the target), since the scammer never went green and perfectably allowed to make adjustments, while you (the target) sit there, waiting, as you’re already green (unless, you hit cancel), for the scammer to finish making adjustments, before they green. So, always wait for the scammer to go green, first, before you (the target) open yourself up to getting abused (by scammers), by going green, first.

Happened to me to with a skull flame, reported the guy and within 12 hours had my item back and they said they banned him. (Hasn’t been online since) I thank blizzard for the fast help tbh

That’s a quote from the screenshot of the ticket the OP linked, fyi.

I think this is what happened to me. I had another thread on trade scams, and it happened so fast I was shocked I “fell for it”

The punchline to my issue was the person got banned and blizzard doesn’t refund stolen items.

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