Better than barely past 36 in anything?
It took you 5 edits for 3 paragraphs, you’re not even good at trolling.
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I still don’t understand why Ilvl gaps exist in pvp. There’s no progression to be done that’s scaled around an NPC to kill. If it’s about skill, rating, and transmog, I don’t see why Ilvl offers any value, just let ot all be the same and set it to like normal raid Ilvl outside pvp. That’s more than enough to do world content.
Because otherwise there is no progression. This isn’t an FPS, as you play more and succeed you’re SUPPOSED to get stronger. If all gear is the same, and ilvl does nothing, you aren’t getting stronger.
I don’t think people that are skilled are really held back. Last season I didn’t get into PvP until very late. I had like 10k conq to cap. I slogged through and still got up to 2300 by the end of the PvP season. Did it suck? YES, but is it fair to the hardcore PvPers and people who’ve been doing it, that I can just walk in and not have to care about gearing to slap them around? I don’t think it’s fair or fun. Also, most people in lower brackets can have the best gear and will still get destroyed. It’s not like ilvl squish and item normalization hasn’t been a thing in the past. They were, and they sucked. The PVP community hated it because you could get full greens to cheese the stat squish and your toon would be super over powered. System gearwise is fine. The real issue is the balance w/ covenants and abilities.
That’s chump change to a multi-billon dollar business. You aren’t even covering their toilet paper bill for the week.
Just feels contradicting to me. Pvp players always boast, skill, skill, skill. If you’re that good, why’s it matter what Ilvl you equip?
I mean it really just sounds like players want the Ilvl gap so they can sell carries and turn fresh pvp chars into mashed potatoes.
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Don’t worry, most glads/r1s do not care about gear or if casuals have the same gear that they do. PvP existed that way in WoD and MoP, and MoP s15 is considered one of the best seasons the game has ever seen. I’ve only ever seen mid-level players say that they like BFA or SL gearing systems. Maybe because their only real reward is gear, they can’t get glad mounts or r1 titles and the rest of the cosmetics have usually sucked in recent years, especially the duelist rewards this expansion.
If you want proof there is an enormous thread on the arena forums started by a multi-r1 asking for even gear for everyone and tons of glads have posted in support inside. It’s over 1k responses long at this point.
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I’m out of the loop on this, is it still the template method with slight ilvl increases as your ilvl goes up? Or are stats literal these days??
You wish you had five edits, you probably can’t even find the button you actual troll
Anyone defending this trash gearing system is a pver thinking they deserve to faceroll pvp while actual pvpers work 3x harder to get hardstuck at 2000 unless they buy a carry. check.
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You are trying to make a business deal with a company so you can ‘win’ at their game product?
Nobody’s actually asking for Mythic ilevel outside Mythic. We want gear that scales up to “top ilevel” in just our form of content.
But hey, I can go fart in a +15 once a week and get mythic ilevel gear.
I find it laughable that anybody thinks ilevel makes them special in this game when they’ve given out gear like hotcakes in everything but PvP.
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Pvp always tends to get worse with special pvp gear imo. Scaling Ilvl or resilience make the initial wall to climb into pvp impossible.
But anyways, you shouldn’t have to bargain with them. They should be releasing new BGs, unique sets and mounts as well as unique toys and titles just for pvp.
I agree with OP
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No disrespect to your progress congrats on reaching Duelist, but that is significantly easier than reaching it on a DPS.
There’s such a massive drought of healers right now that’s it’s not difficult for a low geared healer to get carried by a sweaty warrior going for their glad mount.
This priest I’m using right now got to 1600 in a literal day at about 180ish item level during first season because big 1800-2100 players couldn’t find anyone else, and I could have gone further but chose not to because healing is not something I enjoy doing.
You can say “just roll a class with healer spec and grind out the gear,” but not everyone is willing to reroll in order to be sufficient in regular non-rated PvP, and they shouldn’t have to either. Also, as I’m sure you know not every DPS class has a healing spec.
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One honor set one conquest set
If you think it takes skill to hit the edit button 5 times no wonder you can’t do anything in PVP.
For you to succeed Blizzard would have to pacify your opponents.
You probably thought this was much cooler in your head. Keeping PVP pay to win and not skill based is the exact opposite of giga-chad.
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They had such a nice approach back in TBC & Wrath in terms of gearing, I’m not sure when this drastic change occured as I took a pretty decent break.
Back then you would grind your full honor set so you can be competitive enough to start ranking in arena. Now if you walk in with full honor set you’re just fresh meat.
I’m not sure, especially in 2v2 if this is true. Getting 2100 with Spriest/Lock, or rogue mage, or almost any combo of hybrid healer DPS classes is just as easy if not easier than pushing with a healer. In fact, it’s hard to find games at the 2100 bracket a lot of the time because DPS only want other DPS. Maybe you have a shortage on Alliance, but this ain’t happening in the world I live in. Some of the easiest games I’ve had were as Shadow with a warlock. It’s quite troll mode.
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