During a discussion on whether a specific event counted as ninja looting several people claimed that as long as you had proof they agreed to a set of rules before the run then it could be reported to Blizzard if they stole an item.
Was or is this true? I had never heard this before even on here.
Blizzard has stated ninja looting in Classic is a community issue and will not be dealt with by Blizzard. It is for the community to handle such issues.
Yeah, thatâs why you will never get a ninja looter to say the loot rules.
Like if you ask in a pug, is anything reserved? And what are the loot rules?
If they donât answer No, MS > OS.
Then you can bet they are planning to ninja something. If they donât say anything blizzard will not take action
If they stated the loot rules and ninja looted then they can get a ban from blizzard. At least thatâs how it worked in wrath
I really doubt that Blizzard is putting resources (manpower) into holding ninja looting âtrialsâ for the accused. With all the he said she said going on, I would think it would be a major headache to sort things out.
Yes they use to have a set policy specifically on ninja looting
Since they basically removed the ability to ninja loot in WoW since then they removed it. The only thing they have mentioned on this is on a couple threads such as this
That the GM will look into it and make a decision based on if there were set rules. They go into detail that master looter almost will never be looked into unless it happens that they SWITCH it to master loot with no one knowledge. Basically this almost entirely takes thereâs hands off of ninja looting. Besides a couple scenarios. The loot rules are specifically greed/need and they change it, or some other instances where they specifically say âthis item can be rolled onâ and then takes it. If they arenât SPECIFICALLY stated in the second scenario then there isnât anything they can do.
Itâs really not at least by how they described it.
Just think of it as a flowchart.
Was it master looter?
No? Thatâs not a ninja
Yes? Was the item SPECIFICALLY stated as an open roll?
No? Canât do anything
Yes? Take action.
Other scenarios include removing people mid pull/changing the loot system. But those should also be open and shut, this guy is a scammer.
Actually they said pretty clearly in a more recent blue post that they absolutely will not be transferring items for any reason whatsoever.
See Loot Trading in Classic *updated*
So donât bother opening tickets. Theyâll be disregarded.
I donât believe I said that items would be transferred.
Not much that can be done about it sadly. Most you can do is create a blacklist on bad players. I have a notepad where I list peoples names, guild, and why theyâre on the list. I havenât ran into any dungeon/raid ninja looters yet thankfully but I stick to running inside my guild, and they have a 0 tolerance policy for ninja looting, sooo. I do have a few people on my blacklist that were stealing guildies devilsaur skins but other than that, Iâve been pretty lucky.
I guess âtake actionâ is a bit ambiguous to me. And why would they take action against a ninja looter if they werenât also going to take away the item and send it to the correct person?
To punish that person? They do this all the time. If someone getâs scammed or their account gets hacked and the person takes all their money they will often just delete the gold and not âgiveâ that money back to the person who got scammed.
Idk maybe they wonât do anything to a regular ninja, but the post that this guy is most likely referring to was more than just a ninja, it was a scam.
But then again at the end of the day itâs always up to the GM. They may throw any and all tickets away that mention loot and maybe they will do something about it. When something doesnât have a set in stone policy it gets pretty subjective.
What does that have to do with ninja looting?
This is why everyone NEEDs on BOEs. Why risk the hassle. Itâs not worth it. Unless you want to give the next Royson their epic mount, just roll need.
The action to take is âpreventativeâ action.
Are youâŚserious? Do you actually need to full connection really broke down that much? lol. You asked why they wouldnât work to try and give the item back, I explained other scenarios where they take action and delete items/gold but donât return it as well.
Not sure if youâre being sarcastic. General rule of thumb unless other rules are established is you roll need if youâre going to actually use the item and greed if youâre going to vendor it or sell it on the AH.
And if the item is an item that is known to fetch 1k gold that system is out the window. Otherwise you get what happened to those poor people in that one guys group.
yeah i think blizz should ban all the ninja looters. but if you are a streamer they wont do a dam thing i mean look at asmongler he ninja from HIS OWN GUILD and blizz did nothing. and people still want to play with them what a joke.
Not sarcastic. Your âgeneral rule of thumbâ opens you up to being screwed by a ninjaâŚthat Blizzard will not do anything about. More fair and safer to open it up to everyone and let the roll decide. This is for PUGs only. Guild runs should do whatever they want.
And that âgeneral rules of thumbâ, to me, only applies to BoP. Like of course you donât roll on a BoP healing plate as a rogue. But if itâs BoE then itâs all up for grabs.
For example, if a staff of jordan dropped in one of my runs as a priest. I shouldnât be just âgivenâ this item just because I could use it. I would be dumb not to sell that thing. I would expect everyone else to roll on it as well.
Your way screws people who would actually use the item. If I saw a Warden Staff Iâd keep it, for example.