You’re right, I should have said current game. I don’t think they’ve said either way if there will be more or not.
Yep, important to keep in mind that the soul ash is front loaded. Should you really be able to do the last 2 layers at ilvl 183? Probably not…
As someone who has done both solo and group Torghast, I can say with 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% guarantee that running with a group is significantly harder.
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I mean, if we assume 8 layers per raid tier. That’s like what? 4 x 8 layers? So at least 32 layers by expac end. Each layer has 6 floors. So that’s 192 floors. That’s gonna be gross 
Sounds like an anecdotal experience.
I had the opposite experience as Arms.
Also groups are way more fun. Maybe it matters if you play well with the people you’re with. Or even if you just like them.
What I’m gathering from this thread is that people are upset they can’t do the final layers of Torghast with a sub-LFR item level and no consumables.
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People saying you aren’t high enough item level… We want to cap our points for the week. This should be fun, not an overly difficult grind. Make it so you get overpowered abilities and blow crap up. It should take a half hour or less. There is plenty of other difficult content. Why does this need to be difficult? Who asked for this to be difficult? It is long, tedious, and broken. I shouldn’t be able to clear 5 floors of level 7 with some challenge and then face an impossible to solo boss at the end. It takes an hour and a half to get to this boss just to discover there is no possible way for you to kill it. That is not fun. It is poor development and planning. It is a chore. Games shouldn’t be a chore. They should be fun.
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Yea, no.
I had trouble clearing layer 3 on my 180 hunter.
I breezed through it last week.
One would hope that during the design of this zone they didn’t decide that our ability to obtain mounts (Layer 8) were limited to only those in mythic gear.
Arms lacks healing outside of a talent which requires you to sacrifice Rage and Mobility
Fury plain sucks
Protection also lacks healing and tanks have it considerably harder now.
i think there’s a good middle ground to be had where you need to be smart about tactics, use CC, smart, surgical pulls but arent just flat out overwhelmed with insane dps requirements and bosses hitting like trucks and chewing people up. We’re still early on in the expansion, so it feels REALLY bad to have some of this stuff be so inaccessible to everyone but the ultra top end ilvls.
So you would prefer that the most difficult levels of content ARE accessible to everyone, early in the expansion? I’m not sure how that works without completely negating the difficulty scale.
The most difficult levels of content are mythic raiding and ultra high key m+. Not everything needs to be inaccessible to people.
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But it isn’t. The lower layers of Torghast are easy. Anyone can do those. What point is there of having different layers if they are all easy?
If they require full mythic raid gear to beat these layers they should just hold off on releasing them. I don’t get it Blizzard.
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I feel like you’re purposely ignoring what I said. There’s a vast middle ground between ‘easy’ and the current state of things. Hit the middle ground.
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I’m not. So don’t take it as a personal attack because it isn’t.
I’m not really sure what you’re asking for here, though. You would prefer the highest levels of Torghast to be only moderately difficult? And have no layers that are very challenging?
Personal attack? What are you even talking about? Lets circle back to my original comment, since you seem to be way off course and trying to bring up things literally no one ever said:
K good chat. Thanks for your time.
Ah, forum trolls. gotta love em.