I don’t mind a challenge. I will say that it was far too easy as a MW monk last week. But these Torghast changes have made it something that I cannot complete with my skill level. Perhaps some are better and can, but I cannot.
I’m a capable healer. Not the best by a long shot, but quite capable, and I cannot figure out how to beat the last guy on Level 7/Floor 2 of the Fractured Chambers. I do not have an interrupt, only a stun and a knockback, but that doesn’t stop his casting enough to drop the buff. I can only sit and heal myself OOM while he wails away on me.
This isn’t fun. I get nothing for attempting without a completion. And this is a required part of the game to contribute effectively to my raid and m+ groups.
Maybe it’ll get easier with gear, perhaps it’s easier for windwalker, IDK. But the sheer difficulty of this level has made me not want to run it anymore, with soul ash being the only reward.
I loved this system, and now I’m quite salty with it. I don’t necessarily want a guaranteed win, but with nothing else to offer without full completion, it should be a casual challenge, not what it is currently.
I hope these changes are reverted, the tuning is brought down to a level where I know I can complete this as a healer, or at the very least I get something for my failed attempts. Because as it stands right now, I have no interest in running this again and it’s going to put me behind in progress. That will certainly push me away from the game, as this was one feature I really enjoyed about the expansion, and it’s no longer accessible to me.
Please consider changing this back to a more casual state.
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Why do you need to do layer 7, right now? You get plenty of soul ash from lower levels. Another couple weeks of gear and it’ll be trivial.
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Is it not meant to be something we’re supposed to be able to do without heroic/mythic gear? I thought this climb was supposed to get us to the actual progression part of it, with the endless halls and such.
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Yeah, they jacked up Torghast something awful. I’m going to ignore this content and perhaps this expansion. I don’t think Blizzard understands their game. I’m sure even more class nerfs will be on the table for next week. Good times.
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No, most are in the early layers. Past that if it’s mandatory in your guild then find another guild. Not even world first raiders do this stuff or have as a ‘chore’ lol.
The buffs though, ya. Sucks completely and they went fully away from what a rogue like was supposed to be like.
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There has always been two rules of Blizzard tuning…
- Try to tune so the difficulty is still mildly challenging for best geared player.
- Only rule #1 matters, don’t give a darn about anyone else.
So what happened is that Blizzard noticed that too many players (and classes) were breezing through Torgast so they made it harder - see rule #1.
Unfortunately you were steamrollered by Rule #2.
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The systems busted the only reason im able to clear the 8s solo MW was for shadow box technic and fistweaving legendary. Other specs dont have the luxury of this amount of cheese.
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7 is a huge step up from 6 apparently.
7 wrecked me but 6 was cake.
I don’t know anything about endless halls. I just know I didn’t even bother doing layer 6s last week, and without even touching 7s yet this week, I’ve already made a rank 3 legendary. You don’t need to push Torghast to the limit to get the soul ash you need.
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It depends on your class, how good of a player you are, and what anima powers you pick up.
So, not necessarily.
Is it good design to have the most difficult level of some type of content be easily blown through by 100% of the player base on the first day it is released?
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choreghast is the worse thing blizzard has ever made. Period.
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Level 7 non elite assasin mobs, are just as difficult as level 6 BOSS fights imo, and these mfers spawn every couple mins. 7 is unplayable imo for solo dps players
edit: unless you are a pally ofcourse then EZ
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Yeah it was definitely harder for my mage. Kept dying to that slime boss but managed to down him with a sliver of health on my last attempt.
Wonder how rogues are doing with these unusual torghast buffs
How many different classes have you personally tested to render your opinion?
I doubt you’ve maxed 12 characters.
Your reply is invalid.
If their design intent was for level 8 to be done once you get heroic raid gear, I think they’d be better off letting the players know in some way.
People had an expectation to blow through every layer because they were previously easier. To go back on that is a whole other ball game than to start out as everything gets super hard.
If Blizzard could somehow communicate to the players what their expectations are or their intent is, maybe they wouldn’t lose so many subs when people get unrealistic expectations because the game lead them on then changed.
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Well, this is my feedback. I’m not going to argue it, but they took a system I was having a lot of fun with, and made it far too frustrating to enjoy.
I cleared 6 just fine last week. I had a lengthy stalemate with the 5th floor end-guy on level 6, trying to outheal his spam casts and use the environment to my advantage, sneaking in attacks when I could. This lasted a long time before I finally gave up, died and just stopped doing it.
I probably could’ve beat him if I wanted to keep up this charade, but I don’t. I’m no longer having fun here. I’m bored, I’m frustrated, I won’t be doing Torghast anymore if they keep it this way, and that will likely give me a reason to take a lengthy break from the game.
I’m sure that doesn’t matter to any of you. It may not matter to blizzard. But I wanted to put that feedback out there at any rate, in the hope that they can return this system to something I was enjoying as a healer in the rare solo content I was able to kick my feet back and do.
Without any further incentive to keep trying other than soul ash, I see no reason to keep playing.
So TL/DR: They buffed level 6 too and tedium isn’t compelling gameplay.
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Everyone is already blowing through torghast layers a little too easy. Remember, these layers are supposed to stay relevant all expansion, you guys are downing most of them week 3 and complaining they are too hard. Like, really? Come on, now. If anything torghast is way too easy. That being said, torghast has been substantially harder for alot of other specs. All the classes complaining today after the torghast buff, have just been getting off light so far, not understanding one bit the struggle some of the other specs have been having in there.
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I died 3 times to a shadow assassin mob on level 7 trying not to pop all my defensive cds reset and died 2 more times to them. i didn’t even get halfway though the first floor of level 7 before deciding that this content wasn’t for me anymore. The most unfortunate part is that the this content is how i get soul ash to upgrade my legendary.
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What your saying in short is people need to be able to sacrifice getting ALL of the most important currency in the game via the only way they can get it in torg because people did the first 3-6 levels too fast?
so like… I should just not do 7 and 8 because 7 and 8 have to last an expansion?
i just want to be sure thats the point you are making.
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