Torghast changes for healers and tanks

How does Blizzard “nerf” a player? Do they come over to your home at night and break all your fingers while you sleep?

I have this thing where once someone proves they are too stupid to talk to I just ignore them.

You have way passed that point if you can’t understand the basics of how core gameplay loops incentivize players to play a game. This isn’t my opinion its a well known principle of game design.

The core gameplay loop of wow is to go do content to get rewards to do harder content. Without rewards there is no loop. I really can’t make this any simpler for you without crayons.

Wait… I got it… You’re talking about Skinner Boxes… Am I right?

It is pretty amazing how much the casual gaming public has essentially bought into the idea that gaming is the exact same experience as pulling on a slot machine lever.

What do I win?

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BTW - I make video games for a living. Betcha didn’t see that coming did ya?

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Torghast is literally a slot machine.

Obvious troll is obvious.

I accidentally got a Boomkin legendary last night as I forgot to set my loot spec to Guardian for Torghast progression.

Guess I got lucky lol.

:clap: nobody :clap: wants :clap: to :clap: play :clap: a :clap: roguelike :clap: that :clap: takes :clap: an :clap: hour :clap:

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You know why it was flauted in beta? Because it was good in beta, then blizz re-tuned it the week before release and we have the steaming pile we have now where instead of you feeling empowered by your abilities, it feels like “welp, I’m on floor 4 and my abilities are trash, time to restart the run and hope for better”

Why not?

I know I do.

An hours worth of Torghast is the same, at the very least, as any other hours worth of WoW activities.

Why is there a time limit on how long you will engage in an activity where you use your character to kill monsters?

I really don’t understand why you people play video games if you don’t actually enjoy playing them.

Wow, because I was just steamrolling swatting things on the nose with a wet newspaper

That’s two nerfs for me today when I was already weak. Anything else?

How is it anything like a slot machine?

I’m genuinely curious. Can you spell it out in more detail?

Disappointed with the changes. Layer 4 was the perfect challenge for 170 ilvl Arms Warrior, with Layer 2 being a cakewalk as it should be. The one thing that made Torgast runs FUN was the chance of getting wack builds.

Shattering Throw ability was fun the few times you got it.

Champions Decree was nice where it was. It made me go through several floors avoiding using Slam on enemies to charge up to a full 100 stacks to save for the last boss. Nothing more satisfying then dropping with to 30% HP and finishing off the last 105k HP with a slam.

At least they havent changed the powers that extend Beserk Rage and the other which gives it a heal. The only self heal Arms warriors have outside of Victory rush. That’s IF you have the luck and get both powers.

I’ll see how this week goes, however it is not looking good.

Simply put, the powers you get are RNG. You arent guaranteed any powers and the amount of powers that are available will fluctuate based on the seed of Torgast you run. Some have alot of Anima powers, others dont. Its completely random.

I’m not sure bosses at higher layers were even doable by a mage without Runecloth Wrappings.

Can you really kill a boss with 500-700k health before it kills you solo without it? It will probably get to 10 stacks before you kill it without Runecloth Wrappings.

I cannot believe they’re doubling down on making Torghast miserable. What the hell.

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You are completely forgetting about the most important factor in the entire process…

The player’s input.

It’s as if you guys don’t really understand games that requires that the player affect the results of the engagement through the skillful manipulation of controls.

I’m curious why that is.

Is it because Blizzard, for years now, has created a single player “casual” experience that doesn’t really require to you perform any action that could amount to anything BUT success?

Inquiring minds want to know.

tried to do torghast just now as prot, couldnt get past an elite i could clear last week

thanks blizz for f***ing over tanks/healers yet again

its worse, i could solo up to layer 6 as bear last week. i couldnt even get halfway through a layer 3 today.

I enjoy raiding
I enjoy arena
I enjoy pet battles
I enjoy m+

I don’t enjoy trudging through corridors of the same mobs doing 0-1 mechanic that are 0 threat.

The irony of being scolded by someone who hasn’t done a single m+ yet, is 1/10 normal. Why are you on the forums if you love playing the game so much?

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Yeh, because why make just about the only solo end game content soloable?

as someone else pointed out, this is nothing like a fill the bar world quest

this is more like a jacked up troll world quest where when you are at 99% if you die you start over at 0% again

and the bar takes longer than 10 world quests

and the loot sucks, it is just currency

your comment was like a trump follower normalizing corruption, self dealing, and lying

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