Too many op slow immunes (and blanket immunes) in the game

Almost every class has blanket immunities. But what’s even more egregious is the slow immunes when every single lobby has multiple paladins, evokers, hunters, druids in it.

Only mage can reliably purge and has the globals to purge and they basically don’t exist for 3/4ths of this expac because nobody wants to get ran down by a hunter 500mmr lower than them pressing 2 buttons the whole game.

All the healers purge is bad at getting freedom off and/or they don’t even have globals for it. Every global trying to purge your dps is taking 30% of their hp and you are playing mastery instead of haste. Then evokers are immune 3/4th of the game to slows and you can’t even purge it. If your team can be slowed and the other team is immune to slow it’s gamebreaking in a world of triple stack cleaving.

It puts locks/dks in a spot where they are either extremely strong (vs priests) or extremely weak (whole team immune to slows) and not much in between.

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Freedom is a core Paladin ability how about we don’t touch it thanks

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there are more rets queing shuffle in the last 72 hours than all 3 mage specs combined, all 3 rogue specs combined, all 3 warlock specs combined

the crazy part is so does havoc and arms, but you can excuse havoc a little because people are spamming games before the nerf

and it’s been like this the whole xpac. The problem with catering to the already most popular specs is they just become even more popular. Imagine how bonkers they will tune warriors and rets next xpac to make them meta in bg blitz while they stomp everyone in black rook hold and ruins of lord.

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I don’t think there’s anything that should be immune to purge/spellsteal. I think rng was good for dispel protection with resist chance & just lots of debuffs/buffs. So I’m probably not helping you by being an extremist but basically I think I agree.

It was frustrating getting 10+ gcds just to remove a buff, but it was also really fun when it happened on 1st try and momentum felt like it got a nitro boost.

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I can actually believe this. Not checking the data or anything but this really seems the nature of shuffle

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I’m not sure why ret paladin kept double freedom when theyre basically a wizard as-is.

Also, tangentially related, but crippling poison could probably use a duration nerf. Not sure why if a rogue exists in the same arena everyone is perma slowed o.O

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28891 ret

23504 mage

30569 warlock

22848 rogue

(numbers from Drustvar)

Which doesn’t really seem out of line considering ret is just good/popular/easy

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Ooh what a neat website. Looking at representation numbers, ret is dominating popularity in solo shuffle. Not so much in other brackets though

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Yeah, some ret buffies for 3s might be nice hehe :dracthyr_love_animated:

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spritzes with water bottle

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Ret always has a lot of people playing it though while specs like Arcane never have high participation numbers even when it’s the most overpowered spec in the game, some specs you can’t gauge their strength from just looking at how many people are playing it. Arcane is probably the least played DPS spec of all time in this game, PvP AND PvE (even over the course of Dragonflight where it has been consistently one of the best specs).

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I’m glad someone finally said it

Sarcasm or real?

No, you’re right.

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I didn’t realise this wasn’t common knowledge.

It used to be but these days saying that causes a mental breakdown

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I would have thought the fact that Frost has seen more overall play at every bracket than Arcane until you get to 2400+ where suddenly Arcane triples participation over Frost consistently throughout this entire expansion would be a bit of a giveaway, or the fact that Disc consistently sees some of the highest healer rep until you click 2200+ on Checkpvp where it suddenly begins to drop off a cliff would tell people this.

Heck, even in PvE during Aberrus where Arcane was the literal best spec in the entire game by a country mile yet it didn’t have the most parses entered out of all DPS specs on mythic difficulty is a dead giveaway that rep doesn’t accurately detail how strong or weak a spec is.

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Yeah I mean I follow and agree but these days people think representation is the sole indicator of class strength and it’s just the funniest thing in the world

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Don’t forget that AWC rep also mimics ladder rep!

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Oh ya awc is totally a 1 to 1 rep of ladder mhm mhm

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