Too many buttons

thought blizzard said they were doing something about button bloat this xpac, the fact i have 3 action bars filled with holy priest stuff tells me that is a lie.

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You can remove like half of them.

If you have Renew, CoH, PoH, checks notes and even on occasion Divine Hymn on your bars you are doing it wrong.

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Multi-function mouseover macros.

I have several heal/harm macros build for several classes. keeps the button bloat down.

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Tell me why we don’t use renew?

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Look at the tooltip. Note the absurdly low throughput at the cost of a GCD. There’s no reason for Holy to be casting Renew in any capacity. Disc, of course, gets atonement from it.

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Ya they like to keep holy priest FULL of useless spells that do nothing and have no place even being on your bars but if you ask for like 1 useful thing that everyone else has WOAH, that’s a hard no because everyone else has that already.

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Remember the wheelchair Paladin memes from Legion?

We’re that, now. At least we have our three charges of Wheelchair Nitro! I guess!

I see.

Hm.

if i have to use macros or add ons, to play any class, then the class design is wrong.

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I’ll still cast renew while running to next fight. Or if I’m on the move in a fight and I can’t really do anything else, happens semi frequently. Not my most pressed button but there is an advantage to casting renew.

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I do this on Disc, on account of my otherwise limited options and wanting to hold Penance between pulls. But, I’ll also admit that I don’t play Holy in dungeons - I just don’t like how much worse it feels than Disc in M+ so far.

Flash Heal and a dream once you exhaust all your other tools is fine, but being able to just Radiance → Mind Blast → Start Void Blasting for fat bar filling feels so much more satisfying.

You do you. I actually like the ‘useless’ buttons. You can very well take lots of buttons off the bars and not miss a beat, but there is an optimal time and place for all the spells, so I’m able to modify talents in raids often to accommodate this. It keeps me more focused and energetic, but that could very well be a me thing.

We were that then, too. The only difference is that Blizzard responded to the problem for death knights and paladins but did not respond for priests.

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I don’t strictly agree. Simply on the basis that the game had far less ‘Zoom Zoom Creep’, as I heard someone inventively call it, and also Shadow was actually good during Legion.

I miss pogging out in S2M for basically an entire fight so much.

I just can’t stand disc. I feel like I have less control over health bars, proactive ramp isn’t fun. It’s why I stopped playing my evoker.

Shadow, but not holy and discipline. Even for shadow, it was still super slow but it was less of a problem because Void Bolt being rotational gave shadow a global of movement regularly and, as you mentioned, Surrender to Madness let you play like a BM hunter or fire mage.

OP, you might like this. I use help/harm macros, and they changed my life.

Here are the 4 help/harm macros I use on my Holy Priest.

#showtooltip
/cast [help] Flash Heal; [harm,nodead] Smite; Flash Heal

#showtooltip
/cast [help] Heal; [harm,nodead] Holy Fire; Heal

#showtooltip
/cast [help] Holy Word: Serenity; [harm,nodead] Holy Word: Chastise; Holy Word: Serenity

#showtooltip
/cast [help] Renew; [harm,nodead] Shadow Word: Pain; Renew

What these will do is make your spells on your hotbars only be your healing spells. Then they will instantly switch to your damage spells when you target an enemy.

You can change around the format of the macro to put in whatever help(heal) spell you want and whatever harm(damage) spell. I usually like to keep spells that are instant cast together, and spells with a cast time together when using help/harm. I do this on other classes too. Help/harm is so amazing on Mistweaver Monk if you do Fistweaving especially.

I recommend also keeping Flash Heal on its own in a separate place on your action bars for Surge of Light procs, and to emergency heal in general. But I like pairing it with Smite still.

I put these macros in the 1, 2, 3, 4 slots on my action bars. Works out perfectly.

I can share a couple of the other macros I use on Holy too which are:

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor]Mass Dispel

#showtooltip
/cast [spec:3,@mouseover,help,nodead] Purify Disease; [@mouseover,help,nodead] Purify; [@mouseover,harm,nodead] [harm] Dispel Magic; [spec:3] Purify Disease; Purify

#showtooltip Angelic Feather
/cast [@player] Angelic Feather
/stopspelltarget

#showtooltip
/cast [target=mouseover,nodead][]Mind Vision

These ones are random, but I find them helpful.

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I don’t agree. Just because a class has a lot of abilities doesn’t mean it’s “bad”, nor does the fact that you can combine some of them into a single button and, depending one your target, perform an action.

Just as an example, I have Smite and Flash Heal on a single button, Renew and Shadow Word: Pain, and Heal and Holy Fire. The first two have equal cast times, the last one they are close (1.3 for HF and 1.9 for Heal), but they were the closest ones that I could find that made sense to combine.

Priest doesn’t have a lot of direct attacks unless you’re Shadow, so those are the ones I figured would be best used.

I use to suck at healing as a Priest, but now, I still suck, but people can’t tell as quickly since it seems like I am healing fairly well and still doing some DPS.

Ooo, I don’t have this one. Or the entire other block you posted. These are great! Thank you!

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Out of curiosity, since I’m tempted to try these, and can’t WoW anymore tonight; can these be made to work with MO functionality? It’s a novel concept, but I’m hopelessly addicted to slightly shifting my mouse over the raidframes, you see.

The ones in the first box are all MO, the ones in the second box are mostly MO and the ones that aren’t could easily be converted. I’m actually testing the ones I didn’t already have on my priest right now.

Edit: Sorry, he didn’t put the MO script in there. Mine look like this:

#showtooltip
/use [@mouseover,nodead,help] HEAL; HOLY FIRE

These can be further edited to include the other groups (Flash and Smite, Renew and SW:P, HW:S and HW:C)

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