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people think we the players fully dictate the price 
, they will manipulate the tokens so they sell the most as possible, no one wants to pay 25$ for 240k gold then give them 300k gold for 25$, keep your tinfoil hats.
$20 not $25ā¦ and yes it is a simple matter of supply and demand.
25$ where I live and yes that is what blizz wants you to think.
Farming 300k gold in a month isnāt even hard.
Proof needed.
Almost as if itās price is changing based on demand
Hmmm
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If yāall could offer times the price changed which was opposite of expectations that would go a long way.
We have a long history of the price rising and falling based on dead periods and new content/game launches. This lines up with expectations and supply/demand.
We donāt have examples of the price acting contrary to this.
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itās like looking at the ups and downs on the stock market without any knowledge of the underlying businesses or market trends and saying āthese are just going up and down for no reason!ā
we donāt have the data to know why the price might have moved up or down. in the absence of that, people are of course leaping to the conclusion that thereās a blizzard employee who spends the whole day turning a ātoken priceā dial back and forth just to make everyone as miserable as possible
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I mean, from what Iām seeing they canāt. Every trend and significant movement on this graph can be directly plotted out to either a change in the game or the release of other Blizzard content:
One thing that I didnāt add to the graph - the DRAMATIC jump up in early 2017 is due to that being when they enabled using tokens for Blizzard balance.
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Just curious as to where you live because if dinner and a movie is $30 Iām loading a Uhaul there tonight. Last movie i saw was $90 for 3 people and another $50 for concessions. Hell Taco Bell cost $48.
The price I gave was per person. For a couple, double that.
And if you have wine, add that on as well.
I was trying to pick something low end. Legal Seafood in the Boston area would be $30 per person, with only soft drinks but you can find something less expensive.
Of course if you go to Davioās in Foxboro and a Patriot game, back up the money truck.
That is still way less expensive than where I live and Iām in a part of the country that is widely considered in the median for cost of living (and it is also some of the lowest housing, grocery, gas and education costs) in the US.
Guess Iām moving to Boston!
More money for tokens that way!!
Huh, so it seems like the best time to buy a token with gold is immediately after an expansion release, likely as a result of a lot of people dropping bucks on tokens for gold to get a grab on the refreshed market and the best time to buy tokens for gold is nearer the end of an expansion.
Good to know.
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Remember, Iām talking about low end dining, eating at the local sandwich shop. Iām trying to argue that in many places $20 is not a lot of money so I picked a low cost evening for comparison.
Obviously if you go to a high end restaurant in the Boston area then go to a concert or ball game itās going to cost a lot of money, especially if you add an expensive bottle of wine in the restaurant and a few beers at the game then you have to bail out hubby who blew a 1.3 on his breathalilzer on the trip home.
Yep! Iāll often save up my gold until the dip plateaus and then buy up a bunch of tokens at a time. Itās really pretty predictable.
The only real difference that Iāve seen over time is how fast the prices go back up and how high they go depending on how many persistent gold sinks the developers put into the game. Newer teams donāt seem to have regarded balancing the gold economy as being an important thing compared to other developers building systems over time.
WoW Gold can only be used for things in the game, so it doesnāt have as much value for someone with cash on hand as someone with gold on hand could get from turning their gold into Blizzard Balance for literally any other Blizzard product. Thereās no similar mechanism in reverse, even the WoW Classic market is its own separate walled-off thing. To balance the demand on the gold side, they need to put in more things that you have to pay for with gold in live Retail WoW, but have neglected to do so lately and have leaned on alternate currencies instead to make people remake the grind wheel and start again from nothing with each patch.
Thatās all fine and good for #engagement and for keeping whales from āgetting aheadā with their huge gold stores, but leaves the token/gold economy increasingly imbalanced and inflated over time.
When I came back a month before Shadowlands, I believe I bought the Basic version. For Dragon Flight I bought the Epic version because I look at part of the cost is recovered from the free month. But yes, the extra mounts or pets is the only other thing I care about.
Normally I would rather have a collectorās box. Not a fan of digital downloads but that seems the way things are going nowadays. I remember buying a game at Walmart, get it home, open it up and no disc. Instead, it directed me to download it off of steam with the code that was inside the CD case.
I used to have a wall of every game I use to own but finally I threw most of those things away. 153 Nintendoās with special controller and pad for running on, easily 1000 computer game boxes, I still have most of my AD&D and D&D modules and books as early as 1975 up to when I stopped playing back in 2004.
The movie collection well that is gone stupid. Started with 50 discsā back in 2004 and now have about 3,000 movies and about 200 VHS.
I dunno. Seems to me Blizzard would make more ārealā money if they cost less gold to buy than if they cost more.
Every token sold is $5 in their pocket. $20 to buy, $15 redeemed. Doesnāt matter if it sells for 100k gold or 300k gold.
If it sells for 100k gold, the player spending $20 needs more of them to get to where they need to be.
Obviously if the price falls too low, the person spending $20 might see no value in making the purchaseā¦ which leads to less salesā¦ which leads to more gold/token. Then the value of spending $20 increases, leading to more sales, leading to saturation and the gold value drops again. Circles manā¦ theyāre everywhere.
Iirc if your token isnt purchased within a set time, blizzard will buy the token for you essentially. They help create artificial scarcity in regards to wow tokens, but only if demand for them reaches a certain threshold. They are quite involved, but not the sole factor
Could be. I never waited more than part of a day to sell a token.