Pay 20 and get 4 months game time lmao
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Why would you risk the coin you had. For the chance you might ‘get rich’.
This is not how you get rich, people.
Probably wasn’t me. But they are able to manipulate it due to there being absolutely not ‘check and/or balance’, like there is with a normal AH listing, where you can see the player selling the item, and the player buying the item.
…and since the Token has been compared to Stocks. There’s a reason the SEC exists. It’s to prevent stock price manipulation. Specifically because you can’t see who is selling and who is buying; the price just changes.
Looks like it’s going slightly back up now. Close to 5500g as of this post.
It wasn’t you.
Just saying that the wow token is pretty well documented in the retail economy community and it is fact known that blizzard is not arbitrarily manipulating the price. Was just an usual tinfoil hat theory of the forums
They are just making it easier to get free game time.
I bet you will be. You know just because your sub isn’t up doesn’t mean you have to stick around, just quit now!
How do they know? This isnt retail so why do u keep referring to the retail version.
Blizz set the price. They may allow it to go up and down in value but they are also deciding how much it goes up/down. That is not controlled by the economy as it shoukd be.
I can very easily see why blizz would regulate it. Im not saying they are because i dont know anymore than anyone else. So im not saying they arent also.
The one thing i do know is that blizz makes 5 dollar profit everytime someone buys one of them off the AH. If blizz WAS controlling thr price, do u think they would rsise the price so players stop buying them, or lower the price so more get sold? They have zero interest in the value, but they win the more sold.
If a player were to spend 20 dollars on a website they could get 3 months of wow time versus… 15 dollars for 1 month
choices…
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I refer to retail because wow token exists for over 10 years in retail. Its not a myth anyomre.
But if it is bought/sold the same way then it is the exact same situation as what we have. Which if it is the same then it is still an unknown. Or a myth as call it. Time doesnt change a myth to a fact. Evidence does. If retail hides the amount of tokens being sold on the ah and hides the names and quantities being bought from the ah, then it is still possible that the prices are being adjusted by blizz. Again, im not saying they are, but with no evidence of a transaction, we can only assume they take place.
Why hide the amount of them on the ah? Why not leave pricing to the real ingame economy. Why the shroud of secrecy? The ONLY answer that i have thought of is that they want the ppl that post the token to be able to remain annonymous. Just a guess. If so, hide the name of the seller.
But really interested to hear what retail has been able to prove.
you say that like it would be a bad thing for blizzard, but for there to be wow tokens to buy someone has to have paid $20 for the token so even if you buy illicit gold to buy wow token game time, blizzard makes $15 more than they would have if you had just paid your monthly sub.
If the player does as you describe, they risk account punishment. They risk the shady website having their credit card unfom Its a risk/reward choice. Ive never heard if anyone having thier cc info used illegally, but that fear is there. And as far as i know, gold buyers from websites have had thier accounts suspended for short periods and all of thier gold gone. That is probably the real risk.
They don’t hide it. Its in the api if you want to look at it.
As I said, its well documented.
I dont understand why classic dads always have to invent a tinfoil hat theory
I haven’t seen anyone invent anything. You seem very knowledgeable of this subject. I don’t know what the api is so i can’t look there. Why is it there? why not make the trasaction just as visible as every other AH transaction. What is special about the token?
so you say its NOT hidden, and its in the" api " and if i want to see the transaction i just have to look at it. Seems pretty simple to you so could you please help me. I just sold a token. Can you tell me what i have to do now to see who bought it?
I also want to know how many tokens total are on the AH. I am going to guess that I just have to look at the API, if i want to know. Is that true?
Thanks for helping, I am sure its pretty obvious and simple to you and im probably just overlooking something.
Oh another question or… answer maybe. You stated that you don’t understand why classic dads always have to invent a tinfoil hat. From you previous emails you referenced retail and how they have it all figured out and it is NOT A MYTH ANYMORE. so it was a myth? I mean, you didn’t say it was NEVER a myth. So if 10 years of knowledge is what made it NOT A MYTH ANYMORE, when it was a myth, who was wearing the tinfoil hats then??? RETAIL MOMS? do you think in 10 years that classic dads would figure it out and move it to the non myth category or do you think the classic dads would only need 4 years or 3 years. Or…maybe since the RETAIL MOMS spent the last 10 years figuring it out and disproving the myth, that we can just use thier learned knowledge and really speed up the myth busting process. Was it really a retail myth or did they just set out to prove that someday in the future, classic dads would claim it was shady and therefore they spent the past 10 years documenting the evidence to end the future myth as soon as it started?
I am going to guess you can’t answer this or you would have already done so. its very simple according to you, just look at the api right? please share your superior auction house transaction information gathering knowledge.
The algorithm that drives the token pricing is completely black boxed and blizzard has only made vague statements that it’s partly driven by how many are being bought/sold. You can’t post them for whatever you think is fair, you can’t see who has posted them for sale, and you can’t bid on them.
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Man you are asking so many things you can just look up.
In easy words: Data blizzard publishes for devs so they can use that data on websites (eg token price)
Because its an irrelevant information to have ingame. Barely anyone cares how many are available. Why aren’t spell power coefficients showing? or how much damage a boss deals? or what ilvl a piece have? Some stuff is just irrelevant to the community. Feel free to give blizzard you feedback how much your gameplay is influenced because you can’t see who and how many people are buying wow tokens.
Its not and its well documented.
I’m not sure if its possible to exactly see who bought it but its possible to see how many are available and how many are being bought.
Yes.
It never was. You classic people made it a myth
Nobody
Not sure what you are rambling here but you’re basically confirming that classic dads love tinfoil hat theories. This is more bullcrap than flat eather would say.
I can I’m just not 24/7 in the forums.
I think between my DK smelting titansteel and my priest making cloth on cool down, I average 5k gold a month.
Now I essentially log them on, craft, send the goods to my mule, post then to the AH then play retail. I’ve averaged about 200g/day from crafting which is enough to buy a token each month.
I think it would be more logical if Blizzard set a minimum value for the token rather than let it devalue to bits like it has. That is, if they wish to incentivize the purchase of the token over ill-gotten gains from gold sellers.
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If enough people do that the market will be flooded with gold and $20 will buy more gold. You’ll have to craft/farm more gold for a token. This gold market is brand new and it will take a few months to see how it plays out.
The thing that’s frustrating is their thinly-veiled lie was that this was was to curb the botting problem. And if anything, botting is better now than ever. Cheat your way to a few tens of thousands of gold and use that to buy a year’s worth of subscriptions.
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