Today Apple introduced new Macs - will WoW still run?

I appreciate your thoughtful post.

Thanks for your gentle response. Iā€™m sure Blizzard will eventually tell us its plans.

Thank you, this made me giggle. That is exactly how my 11 year old grand-niece texts when she is trying to show adults sheā€™s smarter than they are.

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They are like many companies out there. They need to see what cross platform tech comes out of this.

As many use cross platform pipelines. No major vendors make a true mac version these days. even after they dropped PPC and went intel based for years.

By true I mean fully coded in then obj c now swift. Most main stream mac apps are coded for windows then x-platformed to work on mac. Some minor players do. I used BBedit for text editing as an exmaple. That was written fully in mac languages like obj c.

Fair enough. Seems true.

Stale chocolate in my stocking back in the 80ā€™s.:smiley:

get a pc and stop using a tinkertoy to game

Move it to the Mac forum.

Fair point, but I wasnā€™t aware there was a Mac forum. If I had, I would have moved it there.

When did WoW officially support Mac? Was it at release? Was it later? If it was at release that would mean they transitioned from PowerPC(RISC processors which is what ARM is based on) to x86 so I donā€™t see why they wouldnā€™t go to ARM. I donā€™t like that apple rebranded them when ARM isnā€™t much younger than Apple itself.

At release in 2004 WoW was available for both Windows and MacOS. Intel in Mac became available in 2005, so you are right about the migration. I had to google that info, itā€™s too far back for my memory.

Earlier versions of Warcraft (not WoW) were available on MacOS BEFORE they were available on Windows. So Windows came after MacOS in that sense for Warcraft.

ARM is 14 years younger than Apple.

Iā€™m not sure itā€™s accurate to say the new Macs run on ARM processors. The new Apple Silicon processors are a variation of ARM, not unlike AMD is a variation of Intel. Apple has a license to use ARMā€™s design for its own purposes. For one difference, the Apple Neural Engine is part of their M1 chip, and that is not part of the ARM design.

That is wasteful beyond belief and should not be supported when these things can be easily fixed with better design.

Appleā€™s design is simply unfriendly because they want you to just buy another one because they make more money that way.

I use all types of computers. Windows, Linux, and Macs. I work on all three types as well. Macs have a ton of weaknesses to the former two and very few benefits over them. Used to you could at least say that the build quality was better but that really isnā€™t true anymore either.

Anyway, like I said earlier. Quit being a fanboy. Apple is nowhere near dominant in the market and is not positioned to be anytime soon. Windows is dominating them in the desktop/laptop market and Androids are doing the same for the mobile market.

Theyā€™re not bad products. They just arenā€™t at all competitive.

I presume you rep objecting to the idea that a computer can be a commodity, like a TV, that is never repaired. Object away. Let people have their freedom to buy whatever they want. Save your hatred for something more evil than Apple. Iā€™m sure you can think of something.

If you want to buy overpriced gear that you canā€™t fix, you do you. But donā€™t get upset when the few that share your view arenā€™t catered to.

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Iā€™m not hating on anything. How did you get that I was hating on something?

Iā€™m just saying that contributing to the very real problem of e-waste by building tons of cheap, disposable computers isnā€™t a good idea when you can simply alter the design slightly to allow for easy repairs. lol

Besides, being able to fix something for $150 instead of spending $1,000 on something new when it fails is beneficial to the consumer.

Youā€™re literally defending bad business practices.

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So youā€™re saying that because Appleā€™s computers generate ā€œe-wasteā€ that they should not be purchased. Are you asking for a ban, or are you just trying to persuade people to stop buying them? What exactly are you trying to say? Be clear.

I have been clear. lol

Thereā€™s nothing wrong at all with liking Macs but you suggested that turning computers into a disposable commodity is a good thing. Iā€™m saying that it isnā€™t and that you should not support businesses making cheap products that are simply tossed out when they fail. That creates unecessary e-waste when said product could have easily been repaired.

Itā€™s better for the environment and itā€™s cheaper on the consumer if these devices are built to be repaired rather than thrown away and repurchased upon failure.

Why throw something in the garbage when it could have easily been fixed? Itā€™s an unhealthy mentality.

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I guess we are in agreement then. The agreement is that people are free to choose whatever they want and nobody should stop them. Great. I never realized that you supported freedom, it sounded like you were trying to ban Apple.

By the way, where do you get your TVs repaired?

Money to burn i see but yea it will run it

I fix them myself whenever possible.

Youā€™d be surprised how many things you can easily replace on them.

Iā€™m a network security guy though. Used to be a general IT technician. Have a lot of experience fixing electronics.

I just donā€™t think we should promote wastefulness in our society. :slight_smile:

This hurts to readā€¦

Alienwares are so bad. lmao