To help with populations at launch

So? :joy:

I guess I havenā€™t started a new toon in a long time. I thought you got riding skill at level 20? Maybe Iā€™m confused. And I agree- bags are a huge part of the economy. But not low level bagsā€¦ people donā€™t go on the AH to get an 8 slot bag you can buy for 1g from a merchant. The only bags I ever had success selling were the bigger ones- Netherweave and Frostweave bags.

I get what you are saying though. Itā€™s not really worth it (on the consumer end anyway) to pay for a couple extra 8 slot bags. If any were to be included, Iā€™d want the nicer/bigger ones. But I like your idea too :slight_smile: Keep it simple. And the extra gold, thatā€™s just to entice players but I suppose the game itself is enough to bring people on. Not worth a $15/mo. sub just to get 5 or 10 free gold.

These were just thoughts. I doubt theyā€™ll do any kind of package, but it would be nice :slight_smile:

hmm, what ifā€¦
During periods where Blizzard feels the need to shard, they increase the rate at which rested exp accumulates (and advertise they are doing so).

Players will still jump on to reserve names. Those who gotta play right now will do so, but those who can wait till things are less crowded get rewarded for their patience with a little bonus thatā€™s not game breaking but still nice.

Youā€™ve been infected with a disease known as retail.

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For the benefit of anyone reading this who only knows the Modern mount system:

When you hit 40, youā€™ll need to pay 100 gold for a basic +40% speed mount. Maybe 90% if you have a discount from PvP.

Either way, this will translate to: Unless youā€™ve gotten really lucky with drops and auctioned them, or have been seriously playing the Auction House for a long time, you need to spend more money, at one time, than youā€™ve seen in accumulation since you started playing the game. You may well not be able to afford your mount until youā€™re level 50.

In Modern, you get a mount for a trivial cost at 20. You get enough money early that you have any gold at all before you hit level 10. The idea of getting excited because an enemy dropped a four-slot bag would seem ludicrous.

Classic is different.

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Suggested this a while back, causing cries of ā€œsegregation, entitlement, elitism, pay to win!!!ā€

I would gladly pay an early access fee if it meant a stable pop non-sharded server.

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I remember clearly that a NElf that grabs skinning and herbalism as early as possible, sells all leather and herbs on the AH and makes it to darkshore has about 3g, a normal player will have around 1.5g.

On my first 40 i had around 35g, I spent a week farming earth elementals in blasted lands and vendoring the junk to afford it, and by that time i was 43.

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So itā€™s easier now to get a mount? Hmm. Guess it has been a long time since Iā€™ve leveled anything beyond level 10 :joy:

So I made a mistake with my post. You get a mount at 40 with classic, instead of 20 as it is now. I still think it would make including one in a package deal would make sense. Nothing fancy, but maybe a limited edition Classic mount thatā€™s been retired or something. Or one designed just for the Classic re-launch.

Or donā€™t include one at all. That works too. Whatever floats peoplesā€™ boats! :slight_smile:

A staggered server release is in no way pay to win, any more than when servers were added during vanillas startup. A fresh server is a fresh server. Players could choose on release day if they want to be on the 3 day old servers or the fresh release day ones.

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For a fortune, instead of for a tiny amount. But you seem regrettably resistant to accepting that the baseline assumption ā€œa mount is something trivial that can be thrown at people, like a novelty petā€ is inaccurate in Classic.

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Right but that was then, mind you. Those were early game days. Think of everything you know now. Ever wish you could go back in time knowing what you know now? Thatā€™s kind of how I think of the Classic relaunch. Itā€™s an opportunity to go back to the early days of game play using the knowledge of the game weā€™ve accumulated over the last 14 years. You know which places to farm for gold, for mats, for XP. You know which professions will net you the most profit. You know which classes to play to land you the best game play experience possible.

Personally, it took me years to get my first 100g. And a few more years to hit my first thousand. Then my first hundred thousand (have yet to hit a million!). But with everything I know now, I know ways that I can very easily make hundreds, even thousands of gold right off the bat. Not immediately, but I could probably see making my first hundred gold in just a few days as opposed to taking years. What it all really depends on is the economy of the server. It will take time because everybody is literally starting from scratch on those serversā€¦ but it wonā€™t take too long, I donā€™t think anyway, for people to start making gold hand over fist. So being able to purchase a mount should be easily achievable by the time you hit 40.

My memory is failing me. I canā€™t seem to remember how much mounts cost back in the Classic days. What is ā€œa fortuneā€? A couple hundred gold? To me, a fortune is paying 100,000g or 500,000g. But I know they werenā€™t that expensive.

In your entire Classic career, you will never see 10,000 gold. Total, accumulated from when you first create your level 1 character and get eaten by wolves when you try to pull three at once expecting them to be far weaker than you.

Let go of your Modern assumptions if you wish anything you post here to make any sense. Hang on to them if you want to go on talking about level 20 nearly-free mounts being ā€œunlockedā€ and 8-slot bags being too small to bother with, but donā€™t expect anyone here to do anything but act annoyed in response to your posts if you do.

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Nah. I guess I just donā€™t take the game so seriously to the point that I have to point out each mistake a person makes. Itā€™s been nearly 10 years since I played in the classic world. Thereā€™s a lot that has changed. Thereā€™s a lot I have forgotten. I guess Iā€™m so used to the new system/new way of playing itā€™s taking over how I remember playing in the old days. Yeah. So Iā€™m showing my age. Again I askā€¦ so what? Maybe I have high expectations. Or even the wrong ones. So what? I was only offering ideas for a suggestion somebody made. It doesnā€™t even matter, really, because Blizz doing a launch bundle probably for Classic may not even happen. So itā€™s speculation for no reasonā€¦ just for fun. Nothing to get in a tizzy or break the calculators out over.

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Epic mounts cost 1,000 gold for both training and mount and require max level.

Another thing your missing is that quests and mobs give considerably less gold than on live, no quest ever gave more than 5-10, and those where the ones that required end game dungeons and lengthy quest chains. The most expensive things on the AH where BOE epics like Krol blade, twig of the world tree, etc. that sold between 500 -1k gold.

All of these things together is why every one is against getting a free mount for money, getting your first mount is a actual achievement (without any silly achievement attached to it) and getting your epic mount wonā€™t happen on itā€™s own just by playing, you have to work for it and hard.

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As much as everyone likes freebieā€™s i dont believe pets or bonuses are needed to incentivize people to buy classic early access.

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This I do remember quite vividly. I guess thatā€™s why I thought including one would be beneficial. Then you wouldnā€™t have to work as hard, but at the same time, I do understand that when you work hard for something, it tends to carry more meaning. Having to spend days, weeks even months trying to come up with your first few hundred (or thousand) gold makes the reward that much sweeter. I remember when I finally saved up the 20k I needed to get my Travelerā€™s Tundra Mammoth (I think it was 17k after rep discounts and such). It took me years and when I finally made the purchase, it felt good! :slight_smile: (Hell, it wouldnā€™t even have to be a ā€œfirstā€ mount; maybe itā€™s not available until after you unlock riding, and after you purchase your first epic. That way you arenā€™t losing any hard work, and you still get the free mount. But even I admit thatā€™s a bit tedious and far-fetched.)

And I also know that making gold is tough because quests offer less as a reward, you loot less from enemy corpsesā€¦ but my thinking is if you play the AH right (and while Iā€™m no expert, I do know how to make gold), you can easily bring in lots. And maybe Iā€™m confused on that too, but if you know how to farm, and donā€™t mind doing it for hours on end (which Iā€™m one of the odd ones, I like to farm)ā€¦ making gold is not that difficult. Itā€™s only difficult if you rely on only quests and looting corpses as your sole source of income.

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Eh. After thinking about it for a bit, Iā€™ll probably just wait two weeks or so to play if there isnā€™t anything like sharding or dynamic respawns implemented.

I want to play without the hassle of everyone crowding the starting zones, plus a lot of the tourists (not all) will be gone by then - probably frustrated with how often they die or something. I also want to avoid bored 60s camping low level zones, at least for my first toon.

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I really do.

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Heā€™s presupposing buggy, laggy servers with hour long queues. And then pro-sharders like to say others are fearmongering? The hypocrisy is palpable.

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original vanilla had staggered servers. North America released several weeks before Europe.

The hypocritical #nochanges club never brings this up though
/evilgrin