The only way forward from here is to meet in the middle. Blizzard must find a way to make RDF without it teleporting you too the dungeon. If cross realm is possible without teleportation, this will have to be implemented for vanilla and tbc dungeons atleast. I personally hate RDF, but to help mega server issues and make the best of the awful state of classic, this has too happen. The new LFG is awesome, perfect in my eyes, but it only works on good healthy servers with more than just raiders on it. I think its time to tunnel vision on how to make this work.
Why would they do that? No RDF has been a huge success.
I do personally believe finding ppl to do vanilla dungeons with is harder than ever at this point, only because most players are just raiders enjoying min maxxing their lvl 80. I know i am.
It’s only possible if they implement CRZ.
May want to get your eyes checked.
I like this idea. For me, LFG has largely worked fine as I can dps and heal, but for some of the less desirable specs or undergeared dudes this would be a good compromise.
Also- I wouldn’t mind having a visual queue timer so I can farm while waiting.
Traveling to the dungeon is something we do now, so this would only be an improvement.
I’ve found many people to do dungeons with. Moreover, there are these things called quests in the game.
The travel to the dungeon is part of the issue, people don’t want to go walk to the dungeon an will rather just sit around and wait for someone to summon them.
LFG is awful. RDF should be reimplimented
Hold your breath until you get your way.
The LFG allows you to select your roll, dungeon and brows participants. Its a lovely system if the population was a actual healthy server, but those are very rare now days. Skyfury is awesome though.
They already found a solution to the RDF Discussion by saying it isn’t in the game and whatever the small amount of peasants here clamoring at the gates clogging the threadlog with RDF spam need to just accept this.
If they are to lazy to walk to the dungeon, they should be kicked and replaced. Those types of players have a terrible mentality too begin with.
it takes like less than 5 minutes to fly to all the dungeons lol
but ya for leveling it sucks for sure. i’m not sure if this is what you were talking about. who is walking all the way to BRD
- It allows dps-only classes to queue as tank/healer
- If someone in a party suggest-invites you, you can’t join any other group until that goes away
- It doesn’t solidify roles
I think you significantly underestimate people’s ability to harp on a topic.
All true points, this could be cleaned up, though i will say allowing ppl to pick the wrong role helps me figure out whos bad.
As a tank the new dungeon finder tool has changed nothing for me. Most of the time I just queue up saying I will tank anything im not locked out to and get an invite extremely quick. It has not forced any engagement upon me with the community, it has just forced me to fly to the instance. RDF was better simply so i didnt have to wait for people to realize that no one else was going to be at the summon stone and then fumble their way to the dungeon. What the tool has done is make it so if I join a group with my friends, they will take extra time to exclude anyone who would need on gear they also need. So i suppose that if you definition of success means excluding the competition from joining your group, then yes it has been quite successful, but you could already do that if you wanted to. All in all, it’s made my spam dungeons slightly more annoying.
xrealm summons are doable in retail. they’re done for M+ all the time.
none of this technology is missing. it’s all available.
To END the RDF discussion
You don’t dictate the terms of a discussion.
No…
Blizzard doesn’t control “where” people play. It’s up to the player to go to a server where people share engagement in the same content. The tools to have a good experience are literally available to all these people; they want handouts and automation instead of earning/working for it.
Blizzard already made these mistakes once. They are choosing a different path.
No…
Exactly.
There is no meeting in the middle… they give RDF or they don’t. RDF was and is still good for the game. It provides a way to quest and still be able to dungeon… people claiming it’s bad are clue and can’t provide good reason to why it’s bad. Bring RDF back to the game and that’s that.
All RDF makes me do is fly to the dungeon. If not having the traditional RDF was a choice made to preserve a sense of community it only does it if that is what you actively look for. I have had many groups where its just me and the first 4 others who had the right roles. We don’t speak, we just clear the dungeon exactly how would be done with RDF in the game. You seem to be taking a stance implying no RDF is good for the game but all it has really done is make it slightly more inconvenient to spam dungeons. If I wanted to talk with people, I would talk to them regardless of how the group was formed.