To anyone who says BFA has content

Your source less box means nothing. People were awarded HKs for WPvP

https://wow.gamepedia.com/PvP_rewards took it from here. Could only get pvp gear through BGs until TBC came out

One man’s garbage is another man’s treasure.

If you don’t like Warfronts. Don’t do them.

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The only worthwhile content to do in BfA are the content that came from previous expansions.

Arena/RBGs which came from TBC, Raiding that came from vanilla, M+ that came from Legion, “incursions” which are just invasions introduced in Legion.

Every new system added in BfA is lame. Warfronts are a waste of resources, you can tell they put A LOT of time creating them, yet they could have used that time into make 2+ new dungeons or raids and it would have been time much better spent.

IE is so tedious and unfun they have to make it the best way to farm AP and then add half of the expansion’s entire toy/pet/mounts as rewards just so people will do them.

Warmode became so one-sided towards the Horde, they had to give the timid Alliance THREE TIMES the rewards Horde gets just to get them to poke their head out in WM.

Even the good parts of BfA, like M+ is a complete rehash of Legion. They didn’t even bother to give us new affixes, they just slapped 1 new one every season and rearranged the ones we got from Legion and called it a day.

Almost like not every bit of content has to cater to you, and some people like different aspects of the game.

  1. I’ve been doing island expeditions to collect things.
  2. Leveling alts.
  3. Making gold.
  4. Pet battles.
  5. Weekly event if it’s relevant.
  6. Daily cache on 5 alts if I want to.

I’ve been busy. And I know what I do isn’t the same as everyone else. But that concept applies to you too.

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HKs reward CP (contribution points), which is used to determine how much RP (rating points) you earn, which determines your rank. Each new rank offers new gear rewards.

I apparantly haven’t gotten to the point of being able to post links, or I’m too stupid, but wowhead has all of this info in the classic.wowhead section, under classic PvP system overview in the guides section. It also specifically states it doesn’t matter where you get your HKs, BGs, or PvP, you will be earning CP.

I don’t do anything that has absolutely no reward… in anything…

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Yea and you only got them from Bgs until the first expansion. Already linked it.

Exactly. This is what Ghostcrawler was discussing when people were ripping on the Battle Pet system that was coming into the game with Patch 5.0. People called it “stupid”, “a waste”, etc. and how it was “going to cost us a raid tier”.

But Ghostcrawler’s point was their philosophy was they never wanted a player to log on and say “There’s nothing to do!”. They would always have something they could do. So it would be a matter of them saying “There’s nothing I want to do!” which is a completely different issue.

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I can’t name content in almost any expansion I would do if there was no reward. Especially repeatedly. Without rewards raiding would be dead. Dungeons would be dead. The only content I would likely still do is leveling (because of the story and because you don’t have a choice) and PvP.

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I tried those to various degrees, and have though about being “burnt out” but I want to play, I just log into a disjointed mess that imo is still showing the gaps from a rushed expac and log back out after a WQ, world boss or warfront.

The Abby Lewis quest line. Also, penguin sledding.

I listed two, may I have cookie now?

:cookie:

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What non-systemic gaps are you seeing?

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Azerite armor and the necklace are epically underwhelming! They were either poorly thought out and/or rushed and not completed.

I would dick about on the island figuring out cool strats based on terrain and mob types if they did not have to timer tied to the rewards.

Those are systemic gaps. I asked for non-systemic ones.

Twinking!
/10 characters

Fair enough. The developers did a good job of putting everything together. It feels like “lite” WoW thou. Less calories, less fat, less flavor, and in the end less rewarding. I could see why players feel that there are gaps in that regards.

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I think the main problem is that a lot of the systems are the same as they were in Legion (e.g. World Quests/Emissaries) or the iteration Blizzard did on them isn’t quite working.

In terms of writing, there are a few glaring gaps and I think Blizzard needs to end the “Horde Team” and “Alliance Team” writers and get them all together because they’re obviously not talking to each other at crucial points.

The glaring example of that is why should the Alliance care about Uldir? Horde are very much aware of what is going on in there but Alliance are more like “Oh, by the way some Old God thingy is in this building in the swamp…”

The opposing faction zone quests are a huge gap for me. They seem either tacked on at the last minute or cut off.

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classic (dot) wowhead (dot) com/guides/classic-pvp-system-overview

That is an article about the classic system, that was only in place for vanilla. The first section says in open world. Go read it, you didn’t link anything from wowhead. All HKs gave you something.

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