The person said they don’t believe me I experience it 1 in 100 dungeons, so 100 is enough, don’t you think? So, once again, it is a yes or no answer:
You’re not wrong.
Everyone’s experiences will vary. One person will see a lot, one will not. Another will see it but turn a blind eye while another will make a mountain out of a molehill.
The root of the problem is Blizzard allowing people to make frivolous/idiotic kicks and saying “that’s legal”. You’re weaponizing jagoffs.
Exactly they can kick for any reason because blizzard has sanctioned the behavior and told them that it’s okay to disrupt other people’s game time because blizzard clearly doesn’t have the manpower to deal with the onslaught of tickets that would be filed if they say that it’s against the rules
Which is why blizzard just needs to change their position and say we don’t sanction this behavior but we can’t do anything about it so we’re relying on players to follow our social contract and be decent to other players which would not include kicking them for absolutely no reason whatsoever
Oh I’m sure a lot of the reason are terrible, I’m just stating that this thread, like so many others, is factually inaccurate by stating “kicked for no reason.”
Perhaps kicked for no reason he agrees with, perhaps kicked for a reason he doesn’t even know, but saying no reason is wrong.
Also, while I wouldn’t kick someone for not one specific example he gave was an addon that notifies of kicks I really dislike those in leveling dungeons. In a leveling dungeon, Timewalking or even heroic we don’t need to know every time someone kicks a fireball.
There’s a pattern in these forums that I’ll gladly explain to you. The early posts are the ones that get the most attention, the posts at the end hardly matter. OP got 45 likes (46 now because I’m petty). The highest liked contrary post got 18 likes. That’s the ratio.
The later posts are from the same handful of people who just go on the forums to argue all day. Their opinions don’t mean much to anybody but their clique.
But that’s besides the point.
I’ve made my argument pretty clear. That a player shouldn’t get a 30 minute penalty after a single kick. Waiting in queue for 20 minutes then getting a 30 minute penalty for not putting dots on fast enough is unhealthy for the longevity of the game especially for new players, which WoW desperately needs.
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I do sometimes feel that these threads actually a cry to have Blizz implement b-tag posting. I’m 100% on board with that as I bet we’d see like 4-5 of these threads and that’s about it 
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Make the WoW Forums like every other forum would be the best start.
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Mate the same dude has been carrying this convo the whole time. No clue why you all even respond to these garbage threads
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uh…?
Blues themselves have literally said “no reason at all”…and many of the posters in these threads have admitted the same, and that they have done it…some even brag about doing it. lol
You’re asking because you want to measure the severeness of the issue. And I asked if 100 is enough. You and I both know it’s not a good enough sample size. And you’ve already tried to reference the CS forum as a source, which means you likely will not be honest of your results regardless of your sample size.
So, in otherwords, the answer is no, because you’ll know that if I recorded my Warlock, going into and doing 100 dungeons, your theories would all be disproven.
Thank you for confirming there is no issue to a non-existent problem.
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No need. The pattern is as follows: an OP that’s usually an alt of the Panda Group posts this thread. Then said Panda and group obsess over it, harass everyone and end up getting their own threads locked.
You didn’t have an argument when you decided to troll me with baseless accusations. You came at me about whether or not this is a systemic issue. And thus far, we have zero proof of it.
Moving on.
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Also, I’ve asked you twice now for a quote from me. Why do you keep evading?
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You do know Blizzard has all the data of everything a character does. Like I said, your answer is no, so there is no issue to a non-existant problem.
I was willing to prove you all wrong, spend all that time, proving you all wrong, but I guess you have saved me the time.
Agreed. Blizzard likely doesnt keep track of kicks either…even if some actually believe that nonsense. They have no reason to if theyre entirely disinterested in dealing with it.
But data comes from those ‘anecdotes’…the stories told about X happening…so thats not really any valid refutation to what is happening in reality.
factually all WE are saying is modify the timeout to help remedy the issue where innocent players are kicked.
one freebie each daily reset would likely fix most of it. I doubt anyone who isnt being disruptive is being kicked a lot every day.
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Yes, which means if they saw it happening enough that it was a problem based on an actual numbers and stats they could do something.
People here asking for changes are going based on their experience, anecdotal evidence, and how they “feel,” or what they suspect.
What neither you or I know, but blizzard does, is how many runs go just fine with zero kicks.
I’ve been around for a long time. I’ve seen some of the most idiotic “reasons for kick”. Everything from “lol” to “idiot” to “loser” to “took my loot”.
It’s kind of hard to lean on those as “reasons”. But I can see someone doing it believing they are.
Do you have access to this data?
Also, I’ve asked you 3 times for a quote from me. You continue evading.
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Forums, give it up. We get it. You don’t want any evidence. Because you’ll know you’ll be proven completely wrong.
And no, I wouldn’t edit it. If anything, and makes you feel better, I’ll live stream it, but you didn’t want any recordings because you claim I’ll likely be dishonest, so why bother showing the real truth when you don’t want the truth.
Because nowhere did anyone claim they hate the topic and this isn’t an echo chamber no matter how much you try to push everyone else out to further a narrative.
The majority of your posts have been repeated spam and trying to get people to leave.
How about actually responding to the minor ideas that don’t involve revamping the entire system? Like a countdown timer on the yes button you claim is the only one you hit to get a pop up out of the way? Or re-implementing the cooldown on the vote kick that used to exist since Wrath but was removed for some reason?
right…which is why EVERY player who is kicked for doing nothing wrong should come here every time it happens so we can get more accurate numbers.
and, whether some like it or not, this is blizzards forum for blizzards game and blizzard reps themselves have told me to come here to discuss issues with the game.
Im not naive enough to believe Im the only one theyve said that to