No offense, but I stopped considering anything you say from the moment you claimed that vote kicks are fine even when the person being kicked hasn’t done anything to deserve a 30-minute penalty for free.
This will be my last response to you, as your perspective is clear to me, and I have no intention of debating it further. There’s no potential for progress on either side.
In your mind I’m on multiple accounts responding to you. I think you’ve lost touch with reality.
Have I ever accused you of that? I don’t believe I have.
What about my suggestion, which was on topic?
My bad I got the two rat trolls mixed up. Oops
I think the stance on this one is that this interaction is required for deserter debuff to be effective.
Because if getting kicked bypasses deserter, people will just try and get themselves kicked so they can re-queue into a different group. The alternative is removing deserter completely, and letting people just drop group whenever they feel like it.
So it’s not a “this is entirely a good thing” and more “this is the least bad option/the way it has to be”.
Oh I have something for this
You have nearly 5k posts, while I barely have around 40. This is the only time I’ve posted on this forum, and yet I’ve been accused of being a troll—or even a bot. I don’t think I’m the one wasting so much time here, my friend.
That said, I’ve already shared my situation, and I’m glad many others have shared their concerns as well. It’s reassuring to know I’m not the only one who feels frustrated about this issue.
Whether you believe me or not, and regardless of being called a troll, AI, bot, or ChatGPT, it truly doesn’t affect me. From my very first post, I’ve been respectful to everyone, and my conscience is absolutely clear.
Too be fair: they are all either in this thread, or the duplicate you put up in the Dungeons/scenarios section.
Way to get to the bottom of that mystery that they… readily admit
Please quote for me where I said this. I’ll wait.
Oh, so a baseless accusation and then running away because there’s no proof of this. Got it.
I totally agree with that. Ruining the experience of other players without any reason is, at the very least, meaningless.
That’s why I think Blizzard should establish criteria to consider what reasons would or wouldn’t be valid for a kick.
If this were to happen, I can assure you that Blizzard’s active player numbers would drop dramatically. No one would be willing to pay a monthly subscription for a game where you can get kicked out over any nonsense.
Eventually, it would just be you and the other 10 people in this forum defending the vote-kick system—until, of course, one of you gets affected by it as well, and then you’d stop playing too. That would mark the end of Blizzard as a company.
Which is still better than the current system of penalizing the player who gets kicked in its current state.
That’s not the only alternative. It doesn’t have to be 30 minutes, it doesn’t have to be after the first kick, repetitive patterns can be detected now, the system is outdated.
But you can make up infinite possible scenarios of social interaction.
It’s an unending game of what if that opens up a granular debate of what is and isn’t socially acceptable by blizzards standards.
It’s a no win scenario for a company.
They have been since 2010. If you repeatedly initiate vote kicks in LFD, you have to wait longer and longer into the dungeon before you can do it again.
I get the feeling that Blizzard doesn’t care OP.
If they did, they’d be performing sweeping reforms.
As it stands the game and these forums are just like the Wild West.
See Sendryn no one likes your comments now you can stop harassing the OP and leave now.
I agree with any solution that doesn’t negatively affect the gaming experience for anyone in an extremely unfair way. Currently, the person being kicked suffers a harsh penalty, even though, in many cases, they might be kicked simply for someone else’s amusement. As several people in this thread have confirmed, players often vote Yes without checking if the kick is truly justified.
So yes, what you’re suggesting could work, as could many other options. Blizzard has plenty of possible solutions—they just need to decide to implement them one day.
Ok then lets implement that practice towards people who get kicked too, rather than penalizing them off the bat with a 30 minute penalty.
No, it absolutely isn’t. LFD was hell prior to the implementation of the deserter for kicking.
They always could. Which is why I’ve said this needs re-implemented:
Patch 3.3.5 (2010-06-22): The functionality of the Vote Kick feature in the Dungeon Finder will now behave differently according to a player’s history with the system. Players using the Dungeon Finder who rarely vote to kick players from a group, or rarely abandon groups before a dungeon is complete, will find that the Vote Kick option will have no cooldown. For players who frequently abandon groups or vote to kick other players, the Vote Kick option will be kept on a cooldown. This functionality will adjust itself as a player’s behavior while using the Dungeon Finder changes.
You have nothing to add to this topic except harassment and trolling. Again… moderation warned you of your behavior. Maybe take heed. All you’re doing is fishing for a ban at this point.