Titanforging makes difficult content feel POINTLESS

handing out welfare gear equal to heroic gear is just as bad, such as world quest boxes and warfront items.

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Not everyone irl is a winner, everyone in wow is a welfare winner though.

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Getting one or two pieces does not make an equipment set.

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I suppose I am in the minority that still believes we should actually have to earn what we get, in both real life and video games. I am not fond of handouts like many people are.

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The people doing harder content can do the easier content plus the harder content so they have many more chances at better gear.

Show me a person doing world quests who has 425 in every slot.

No. You are not expressing that view. What you want is to solely punish other players because they do not play the game the way you think it should be played. You don’t care one whit about “earning what you get”. If you actually cared about that, you’d be too busy playing the game to worry about other players and the gear they might have.

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It’s bad enough that I can show you someone who has a piece of welfare gear that is the same ilvl as a drop from a heroic raid.

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By earning things? lol

Forum police make me laugh … Its so cute

You’d have to go back to before the game even launched to find a time when something like that wasn’t possible.

That’s how the game currently functions. But what you want is for them to have even fewer chances at gear because you hate that they don’t play the game the same way you do.

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nice strawman bucko. no one is saying that except you all who live on these forums, spending more time defending the awful loot system than actually playing the game.

an officer got a 425 trinket from ivus on an alt that freshly hit 120 last week. that is beyond best in slot and he got it on a character he has never played and won’t play.

i have been tagging ivus as long as he’s been up, trying for just a normal version of that trinket.

if you can’t see how watching someone stroll up on a freshly boosted 120 and get literally a besr in slot trinket, while you’ve farmed hundreds of mythic + dungeons and that same boss week after week is demoralizing you are being willfully obtuse and there’s no discussion to be had, just you seemingly ok with this because it hurts people who are more progressed than you.

that’s the theme in all these threads and in all your posts regarding the subject.

if im somehow less of a person for caring what other people get, what does it say about people like you who seem to take pleasure in knowing players are upset when they are repeatedly unrewarded for doing difficult content.

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Umm? maybe before BfA launched. Never in the history of WoW has the welfare been this real.

You think queuing up for a warfront or doing a few world quests counts as earning something?


Anyways, I am done here. Neither of us will agree with the other. I believe in working for what someone has and you believe in welfare and handouts.

have a good day.

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Lots of talking about “earning” gear. Sorry that you don’t like the avenue I chose to “earn” my gear.

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Just like irl welfare recipients earn what they get, right? lol gg

sorry that you feel spending more time posting on the forums than in game means you should be anywhere near the ilvl of someone who actually plays.

you’ve almost eclipsed heroic in terms of ilvl, and going off your post count and armory, you talk about the game more than playing it.

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Not a strawman. People who yammer about how bad WF/TF are act like it rains from the sky so often that nobody should be below 410 average item level. Yet they can never provide proof of someone getting that high from doing world quests and war fronts.

So your complaint is with the random nature of gear then, not with WF/TF.

Proof that you’ve never played this game before BfA. The term “welfare gear” even started with TBC when you could buy raid quality gear from doing 5 man content.

You think that having an infinitesimal chance at better loot is somehow breaking the game compared to doing harder content that has many more chances at better loot.

The game already works the way you say you want it to work. But that’s not good enough because what you actually want is for the gap to be even larger so you can lord over the people who play more casually, as if they even care about you.

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That is great they got it!

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Tell me what gear I can expect in my mail box? You just don’t like the lack of single avenue gear progression.

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It is a great system.

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Depends, which wq box is up today and do you have a warfront quest ready to go right now?

it is very possible to completely out gear heroic mode without having stepped into a mythic + or a heroic raid. it was a straw man tho. you can say it isn’t but uhhh

ur wrong.

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