Titanforging and Warforging make me upset

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How does one Cancel their subscription ??? I plan on trying to get back into wow later this month but sub dosent end till April 19th…

I already got my moneys worth out go so burned out of this game at start of Feburary after playing since August…

Honestly not sure if I will ever play again at this point. Guess I am MMO out.

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Is there anyone that doesn’t? Has anyone ever met someone that plays the slot machines, intentionally, and gets so upset when they score three pumpkins, that they quit?

You silly boo. Of course you enjoy them. This is why scratch-and-wins are a big business, but especially with people that can’t afford them or don’t know why they can’t stop buying them. :smiley:

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I hate it as well. It killed all prestige from doing mythic raiding. Now every casual is walking in same ilvl as mythic raiders…

It also killed “hunting for BiS”, because you will never get your BiS due to extreme RNG and turned whole gearing process into casino.

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You’re missing the point that their epeen is hurt.

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“It upsets me when I play at a higher skill then most players” yet OP hasn’t even completed a single raid or keystone this expansion, not even LFR…

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I dunno if it counts, but I got a 425 ilvl from the first or second week mythic cache of this season and I laughed and felt frustrated. Yeah probably won’t replace that cloak for the rest of the tier (I would be an idiot not to put it on of course) thanks to the stats, even if I get one from mythic raid when we get there. If I get another then there’s another slot with no way to upgrade.

I wasn’t happy, I was just facepalming.

I wanted to add to this. Got 2 great pieces pretty much from the first boss in Mythic and THAT felt good, but working through Heroic it looks like I won’t be able to get any upgrades until Jaina maybe or farther in Mythic thanks to random luck. On one hand, it means I have good gear for progression, on the other hand I have lost some motivation with killing bosses now.

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You do realize you are addressing ppl who get their entertainment through bragging right :rofl:

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You don’t see a problem with that sentence? Titanforge and Warforge systems are no more than gambling, so that they can pad numbers and show how many more hours people put in.

In the long run, this is extremely harmful to your playerbase, but for you, in the short run, it’s a nice gain. Unless developers have come to the conclusion that there won’t be a long run - might as well squeeze as much as they can before it’s over.

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Eh, I wouldn’t go that far. I hate the system for reasons I listed above, but also mostly know that if I keep progressing through Heroic as my guild intends to do I’ll be all 400s likely before Joe Schmoe pet battler will. There’s a certain lack of permanence to that feeling, as with 400 warfronts, M0 weeklies and Titanforging the casual player will slowly creep up to my gear level over time, and that part kind of sucks, unless I myself get a ton of lucky Titanforges (which in turn might make a Mythic raider feel less prestigious). But that’s a different issue entirely and more related to “freebie” 400 quests being on par with Heroic rewards rather than WF/TF in and of itself.

This part definitely sucks, and ties in to Blizzard’s whole “having multiple alts as geared as your main is a degenerate playstyle” or whatever nonsense the devs spouted during Legion. If you were a raider you decked out your main then ran alt raids, possibly helping some guildies progress and whatnot. You can still do that I suppose, but a part of you might always be thinking, “but WHAT IF my weapon drops Titanforged and I’m not on my main…”

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Honestly casuals is not even the problem with TF/WF - It’s the fact that it never ends. You can’t just reach your highest power because things can always go higher because of a gambling system.

And this does not only apply to mythic raiders. A normal raider can have a BiS list just as much as a heroic raider can. Once they reach that point, it’s satisfying knowing your character is geared to your maximum level of skill… but nope, here comes TF/WF, a hidden gambling system.

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“Im an elitist. Its so unfair. I deserve the best for the time i invest; even though i pay the same amount each month as those filthy casuals. People who dont have the time to play for hours and hours a day, or people who dont want to deal with the drama and B.S. that comes with raiding; do NOT deserve gear as good as mine”

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Finally, a blue post that isn’t about allied races that they’ve already answered.

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Previously:
Player has BiS: UGH THERE’S NOTHING TO DOOOOOO

Currently:
Player has BiS outside of WF/TF. UGGGHH NOW I HAVE TO GRIND CONTENT

It’s almost like people don’t like this game, yet still want to play it. What do you want Blizzard to do? Releasing a new raid tier every 3 months isn’t realistic.

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Who complained about having bis loot? That was the end goal.

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Sure there is. You get the item best for the slot with out bonus forging. Then you have a small chance for a bonus upgrade that you normally wouldn’t have. BiS has always been a thing to work towards. You still can.

It should never be seen as a bad thing that you have a chance at still get useful loot even after you have been farming a boss for weeks. I would much rather a small chance that a raid member gets a useful item rather then vendor/de fodder only.

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I’d prefer more fixed gear if it lasted for the whole expansion.

Right now, you can get the most insane titanforge on the most insane piece possible, and LFR raiders will have better stuff by week one of the next patch. It’s ridiculous.

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Who ever complained about BiS? Back then, the only thing to do was to raid and that was pretty much the only content aside from dailies. Now, there is a lot more options.

I rather have items be what they are on the loot table and not have to rely on luck to get a better item. Is it nice to get it? NO. I never feel good about getting a titan forged item, if you do feel good when that happens, then you are probably the problem in this game. The only acceptable RNG is whether the item drops or not, not if the item drops, and if the items decides to become better.

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People who didn’t have BiS. :stuck_out_tongue:

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That was the whole point of the system, so you have a goal for the tier for your character. Do you like knowing that you will never reach your maximum potential because RNG says no to you?

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There is nothing ‘harmful’ about titanforging and warforging. I don’t consider this gambling and I see nothing wrong with his statement either. I did the turtle emissary today and I am guessing you would consider that ‘gambling’ as well if get unknown rewards is ‘gambling’.

If you are going to bring people with issues into this they deal to need with their issues not have a game made to cater to them.

I find titanforging and warforging fun too but I never expect it to happen.

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