This doesn’t really add anything to the game or the class.
It’s just an arbitrary restriction.
Why do you want this?
True necromancers is the only option here, Death knights are too warrior like to be a necromancer.
Because blizzard gave demon hunters to elves and left it for elves despite their being players that don’t like playing elves.
I want a tinker goblin and gnome but understand how I felt about a class being locked behind a race I despised.
If demon hunters had apprenticeship added to them I’d enjoy that as well
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But why would you want to restrict it in the first place? Just allow a bunch of races to be Tinkers. We’ve seen plenty of them .
Lol this is just wrong. Have you played Unholy in the prepatch?
Zombies. Skeletons. Skeleton Archers. Skeleton mages. Abominations. Gargoyles.
All at the same time. and abilities to make them stronger.
It’s freaking awesome.
It’s still not a necromancer, it is still a melee range class that uses it’s weapon to dull out pain. A true necromancer wears cloth and relays on its minions and spells to do damage.
Most of it’s abilites are ranged.
Also wrong. 90% of your damage is pets
Sounds like DK to me. but DK’s can wear better armor.
Well played sir!
Wow! You’ve changed my mind about an idea I’ve hated since I first heard it. I mean I HATED “tinkers” Pfffttt… Hated.
But I LOVE the way you see them! Best argument for this I’ve heard. Take my money!
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I still want them to have a better name than Tinker.
Tinkerer or Technician. Either works.
But the class concept is cool. Guns turrets and explosives. plus a mech suit. We don’t have a class that does that already.
Unlike Necro. We already have a class that fights with undead pets.
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You have never played a game with a necromancer if you truly believe a death knight takes that role. Even blizzard obviously agrees they are not Necromancers because even unholy doesn’t get what is a signature ability to necromancers until level late 30’s, a permanent minion. If DK was a necromancer the moment they chose unholy they would have their minion.
I’d main a tinker so quickly if added and it’s only class that would make me play Goblin (no offense to Goblins, I’ve tried them and they don’t stick with me…YET)
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You don’t like the way they level? so therefore they aren’t a Necromancer?
Do you hear yourself? What kind of argument is that?
You can control an army of undead minions, with about a hundred abilities to make them do more damage
That is a Necromancer.
Just go play diablo or something, same thing there. Tons of minions and ways to make them do more damage.
Oh my Gawd! I know… YOU should be in charge of selling this thing to people, ‘cause everyone else I’ve heard so far sucks. I’m just sayin’…
What this means is some abilities need to be moved around and DK’s would fill that role. And they do once they start summoning minions and have CD’s related to summoning more minions, which they do.
And spells, and cloth armor. There is an entire fantasy trope around necromancers and Death Knight is not it, they are more anti-paladin with minions.
Mana is needed, the runic power system would have to go away because you need to melee to make that work. It’s just not really designed right to be a necromancer.
Or Blizzard can come up with their own idea of what fits the necromancer role instead of adhering to tropes? Tropes aren’t rules.
Sure so lets put a warrior in cloth armor and let them swing a sword around and call that a warrior. Actually that isnt even a fair comparison because even in that situation atleast you are doing melee. So instead you have to throw your sword from 30 yd range and if you enter melee you can’t do your skills.
because if we are being honest… they arent going to make 5 different spell variants for Iron horde, Draenei architect, Dwarf tank Tinker gear. They are going to make a single Gnome and Goblin architect and then the majority for each class will be Humans and Belves… where Pandaren are mostly Monks.
Let’s gut Demo Warlocks again to make room for a new “Class” instead of just adding in a questline to make Demowarlocks summon undead variants instead.
Demon hunters already robbed Demonology Warlocks… we really going to do it again… hell, DH only got 2 specs… how many specs would Necromancer get that wouldn’t push into DK and Warlock territory.
To be honest. It’s a pretty easy sell.
- Tinkers dont need new lore. They’ve been around since WC3.
- Tinkers fit with wow’s class design. tank, healer, dps.
- Tinkers don’t contrast with existing classes. because they’re unique
- Tinkers have been worked on Internally.
It really does sell itself.
Death Knights use Spells, they raise the dead and force the dead to fight for them
So they use unholy magic to raise the dead? That’s a NECROMANCER bro.
So you want a generic trope?
Blizzard literally gave you “Necromancers, but cool and themed around Warcraft”
And you hit your desk and say “I don’t want it be warcraft themed! I want it boring and generic!!”