Figure out how to stop these tanks, please. The rest of the party matters too.
Fun fact, if you don’t spam heals and damage as the tank is pulling
You won’t pull mobs
-Tank yourself
-Have a friend tank.
-Group with like minded players.
Etc
Etc.
Also: if you get into a pug group with a DH tank, just leave. It ain’t worth tryin’ to keep up. LOL
Doesn’t address the issue. Some deaths are unavoidable, and if you don’t know it, then this isn’t the thread for you.
It does. I just spammed Timewalking for three days to level from 60-70 as a Fury Warrior. When a tank wants to chain pull, you do nothing but follow. I have never been stopped by a mechanic that will kill me.
TW Black Temple makes running dungeons utterly obsolete.
They’re doing it for the weekly cache.
You can get the cache killing 5 black temple bosses. Says so in the quest. It’s leagues faster than doing 5 dungeons.
Oright. Well, I know I’ll be running the dungeons for gear. Because I don’t have any gear comparable.
My Tank is a Pally, I’m pretty much slow crawling through a dungeon. Generally if I join a run as DPS, and the group has a monk or dh for a tank, I bail. Never had good experiences with those guys.
Yeah, Pally tanks have been taking it steady and well in those dungeons. DHs and Monks are just gone. LOL
If you cue for the dungeon you will get credit for completing it; I wound up chasing a group through a half completed blood furnace and didn’t even get a chance to cast a spell wihile playing shadow priest and I still get loot from the bosses and such.
Oh, then yeah. Good source of early gear since there’s no ilvl restriction like DF heroics.
They’re not. If the tank grabs agro and just drags everything to the end (because let’s face it, thats just funny) and you dont attack until that end, you won’t die early. You can’t, unless you fall off a cliff or something. What “unavoidable death” are you running into if you’re not damaging the mobs the tank is wrangling?
They’re obviously jumping the gun and aoeing as soon as they can get to a mob, and then complain when they rip aggro in one global.
As a hunter, I just sit back for a moment and see what kind of tank we have. If they keep running after the first 2 packs, we have a “gather all and nuke”, if the tank dies during that first big pull we either have a tank whos eyes were bigger than its belly, or a healer that couldn’t quite keep up.
If the tank lives, it’s going to be a fast run.
In these TW runs, I think we are past the point of “Hey Tank - read the room”.
Step 1: Be healer
Step 2: Stay out of combat if tank is dumb
Step 3: Let tank die instead of getting healer aggro
Step 4: Point and laugh
In this situation if the tank doesn’t die then neither will you. If they do die then you get to point and laugh.
Wild to me how folks here will address absolutely anything but the actual problem here: unkillable tanks built for speed runs who leave their parties behind.
I hear a lot that “this is an MMO”. Nobody here can explain to me how the behavior I’m describing is consistent with the design philosophy of an MMO. Just a bunch of excuse-making and victim-blaming and it’s wild.
Well, no. To be fair casters and ranged mobs often times take potshots at anyone on their aggro table, even if they’re at the very bottom. That forces the healer or DPS to have to heal after a point, which in turn draws the ire of everything else.
Yes, usually it’s a matter of someone jumping the gun and attacking early, but not always. And there are other annoyances from tanks pulling like that anyway even if they hold 100% aggro, like when you have multiple mobs who have unavoidable AoE.