Just cause Blizzard never said it is doesn’t mean it isn’t.
You a opening up dungeon finder and Q’ing up with 4 other people. With intent to take advantage of bad scaling. Can people think for a moment? When in the history of WoW is it okay to 1 shot bosses in Queued content? I will wait for response.
If people know scaling sucks and purposely take advantage of this scaling that sucks to clear a dungeon at 20x,50x or 100x more speed. Then would it be logical to assume this is a exploit?
Again why not have Blizzard mail you your timewalking box every Tuesday? Why even bother doing your 5 for the box? It is clear you want to force 4 other people to watch a interactive movie where you deny game play cause you want to nuke the dungeon and leave.
Im not trolling you, there are tools in place YOU can use to limit your exposure to twinks, but it appears you either do not know about them, or would rather whine…
A level 80 almost only do up to 5 runs every tw week and get not really good loots from attending this. If I queued into a group with one-shot guys I will be very happy.
Here is a simple solution for the whiners who keep saying speed runners are ruining the experience for the group by exploiting - vote to kick anyone running the dungeon faster than you approve.
However, don’t be surprised when the rest of the group fails to agree, or maybe even votes to kick you instead.
Up until this thread existed we called it MIN MAXING. Which is exactly what it is.
Again, it’s min maxing, and Blizzard set up the parameters for this to exist.
The complaints should be about Blizzard not fixing their game for 20 years, which I have made posts about in the past… y’all are only noticing it now because you’re mildly inconvenienced.
TW dungeons are for leveling, if you want to stop and smell the roses, go level in chromie time. Otherwise you’re just slowing down everyone else for your own selfish wants. It’s just one dungeon, it’s not like you’re forced to reque with the same people over and over again. And you’re in no rush so I’m sure you can wait the 3 minutes to reque while that twink is preoccupied in another dungeon.
1 thread on a forum does not constitute a majority of the playerbase. Point still stands, twink is the odd man out and the problem. He’s the one making his own groups.
And there’s the “you just want it to take hours” gaslight right on schedule because you people have no valid arguments and you know you don’t. By your logic you people just want an instant “I win” button or for blizzard to mail you the currency/gear so you don’t even have to play the game. Now do you have actual arguments or do you want to keep going in circles?
As you said if TW is such a chore, no one is forcing you to run it. You want to twink, you do you, but stay out of public content instead of hijacking runs. No one wants it to take hours to complete or is suggesting it should. What people ARE however saying is they don’t want to be an NPC in one person’s interactive movie, and they want to actually get to participate instead of watching one person one shot everything. If you honestly can’t get through a TW dungeon in about 15 minutes tops with max level toons today, you’re doing it wrong. Heck even with lower level toons that’s still the case.
Context is important. As I’ve said I have no issues with twinks so long as its not done at the expense of others. Dude wants to say the purpose of twinks is to overpower everything like and be a menace. So by that logic they need to go.
Thinking you should be allowed to turn 5 man group activities into your own personal interactive movie and prevent 4 other people from being able to participate in the content at all is what’s not logical. Especially when half of you whine about this class or that being op in M+ and demand nerfs.
No one said it is. Again if you bothered to read what people are saying you wouldn’t have posted something so ignorant. No one is saying it’s the only content that exists. What folks are however saying is if they’re signing up for said content they want to actually get to participate in it, not watch someone else roll through one shotting everything while they’re relegated to playing walking simulator. You people defending this garbage would be crying bloody murder if someone was allowed to one shot everything in m+ or raids and how it’s not fair to people. But suddenly this is okay? You people need your heads examined.
Dude the only thing you’re “better” than anyone at is proving yourself the stereotypical elitist sweatlord that needs to go touch grass. You love to brag about your m+ runs when I saw a minimum of 25 threads of people like you whining about how resto shaman are OP and need to be nerfed because apparently no other healers can get an invite. If it wasn’t resto shaman it was some other flavor of the month DPS. So far as complaints about game issues go, pot meet kettle. You people don’t get to complain about m+ then turn around and tell others to suck it up when it comes to twinks. Then again I shouldn’t expect anything less from people like you who aren’t good enough to clear the content without the crutch of one shotting everything.
If wanting to actually participate in content I’m signing up for makes me a “weenie” then you people saying to “suck it up” with twinks while whining about m+ makes you the stereotypical elitist sweatlord. Seriously dude touch grass.
Or how about we go with the one where people like you don’t get to reduce 5 man activities into your personal 1 man movie. Selfish is people like you thinking you should be allowed to rob 4 other people of the ability to get to play and participate because “it’s just one dungeon” or whatever excuse you make. Sorry but the $60 of the 4 other people in that dungeon that didn’t ask to be carried trumps your $15 in that instance every single time.
If you want to twink and you’re convinced your the majority, form your own groups by advertising in chat. Certainly you’re capable of that, or are you afraid you don’t be able to find people? You’re allowed to like what you like. What you’re not allowed to do is waltz into runs, prevent the other 4 people from being able to play, then saying deal with it and expecting people to kiss the back of your grieves. Nah homie that’s not happening.
Furthermore, name a single time in the games 20 year history when it was ever intended to allow people to one shot everything. Go ahead, point it to us. Because I have 20 years of precedent on my side, along with them preventing 70s from xp locking because of scaling issues, all the class tunings to show they don’t want anything overperforming, and people actually wanting to play the content.
I don’t care that you want to twink. I care that you’re trying to do it at my expense by preventing me from being able to participate. If your “majority” would actually tell blizzard to fix their scaling so said twinks don’t one shot but can still contribute, everyone wins and all this goes away. Yet you’re afraid to do that for some reason.
How about Blizz just adds the ability for timewalking to be done as a follower dungeon, there, everybody gets what they want how they want. And no screaming about taking away part of MMO experience because it seems like those who defend it being a one man show, don’t really care about the MMO aspect anyways.
Not an exploit just horrible scaling besides whats so bad about completing time walking crap in under 5 minutes that’s a weird thing to cry about with all the stuff they could address in this game. Oh no some super boring repetitive thing most people have done multiple time is being done fast better lets cry about that.
Actually you aren’t forced to do anything if you don’t like it , some don’t like delves or mythic + so they don’t do them. You may want to for vaults but not forced. Not to mention ilvl for heroics through vaults is limited to below what you can get from delves at t8.
Again in this thread you are the odd man out , majority of people want easy fast runs.
Again these dungeons are 10 plus years old people don’t care about spending extended time in them now.
Again if you don’t like the runs in dungeon finder form your own group. Stop crying because others want faster runs. This is no different than some people crying because optional bosses don’t get killed in tw.
You miss the whole point of twinks , they have always been done at the expense of others just look at pvp twinks who go and 1 shot people.
You act like these twinks are in every group , I’ve maybe run 5 dungeons with them , majority of groups are still regular players so stop over-reacting.