And guess where we’d meet if alliance wasn’t veering to the west of Balinda rather than bee-lining south? You guessed it: right in the shadow of their bunker that provides covering fire over east FoS.
Horde takes the most direct route north, while alliance habitually veer off to the side, in order to avoid meeting the enemy.
And whenever they do this, it is a WAAAAAAY bigger PITA to chase and eliminate. But they don’t because they are trying to make a beeline to Galv / Drek rather than engaging.
Thing is if you look at the map, the most direct route to IB is nearly straight south, to the east of Balinda. But that unfortunately puts them along the same path that horde are moving north, and that would require them to dismount and actually PVP.
The conscious decision to veer west to avoid the horde heading north is nobody’s fault but their own.
So horde can’t force PvP unless it’s at stonehearth? Imagine zerging FoS instead of stonehearth? You can do it. I have faith.
Or better yet, horde have the best choke on the map at IB. Meet alliance there.
Why must pvp be forced out of alliance players in a bg? Yeah, IB choke is a nice place to defend, but it is not an objective. Objectives are what were meant to be fought over. Korrak in early AV was the logical first contested objective, but blizzard decided to jam a shovel into the BG and start hacking away. Such that Balinda became the first objective reached, due to alliance habit of skirting the west side of her building, allowing horde to get to her uninhibited.
Patch 2.4 notes:
Alterac Valley
Captain Balinda Stonehearth can no longer be interrupted, silenced, or have her spells slowed. In addition, her water elemental cannot be banished, and does increased damage.
Vanndar Stormpike and Captain Balinda Stonehearth have had their health totals reduced to match the health totals of Drek’thar and Captain Galvangar.
I think you’re trying to rewrite history.
Nothing in those notes disprove what he wrote.
You’re the one that is using the generalization that alliance avoid PvP to justify horde rushing them at stone hearth. Not me. There are multiple ways for horde to engage without rushing stone hearth, and allow alliance be on more equal footing.
Except it adds the group function that he said existed in vanilla.
Group = anything up to a 40 person raid.
Party = anything up to 5 person party.
The ability to queue as a group was in vanilla and then removed. Blizzard then allowed party sized queues in tbc.
Can you cite your source for that because the patch notes I found never indicated the addition or removal of grouping or raids until Patch 2.4?
The blue source has been posted repeatedly the last month or so, which amounted to them stating that group queueing was returning to AV in that patch in tbc, but restricted to party size. No, I do not have the link bookmarked.
What those patch notes blatantly tell me is a couple things. First, Balinda is clearly underpowered in this form, which is why she got buffs and an elemental. Second, the horde starting point is too far north. Playing classic gives us the ability to look back at the past (or see into the future, however you want to view it) and know what glaring problems and balance issues need to be fixed. If blizzard chooses to nitpick specific changes in classic i don’t see what the problem is for some players to ask for what they think is beneficial to the game, especially if it’s something we know has already been done.
OKAY. The reason why the horde cave was moved back was because the Alliance players back then QQ’d ENDLESSLY, and even BOYCOTTED THE WHOLE BG. Do some research for once.
https :// www.engadget .com/2008/02/08/the-av-map-imbalance-in-patch-2-3-a-different-perspective/
heres my proof.
Winning every 6 minutes not enough for you?
Oh, so kind of like how the horde just QQ’d endlessly so much about AV premades that blizzard went and changed it? I don’t give two fcks why they changed it 14 years ago or whatever it was, the fact is people cried and boycotted for a reason and blizz changed it.
We haven’t boycotted it. And the current state of AV is unfair for both sides in fact. Horde loses to zerg, period. If they it isn’t a zerg, Horde 90% of the time wins. That is bad for the Alliance players too, who might not know how the premades are formed or other reasons.
I don’t get the point of your posts. I never said i disagree with them changing av premades. I never said WHY they changed the av cave back in the day, just the fact that they did. Your responses to me make zero sense, lol.
you did. 10 char
A boycott means we are not playing… 40 minute queues means more of us are playing than you. Smarten up.