Time to admit it.... War Mode is a failure

I see…so we were just on different pages before…

They already have Chromie Time as well to prevent stuff like this when it comes to the lower levels. Lower levels with War Mode on can just turn on Chromie Time and they’re sharded away from max level players and are only sharded with players who are also in the same Chromie Time. Players at or above 60 can’t enter Chromie Time.

You keep defining all world pvp as jerks killing lowbies and “real” pvp as narrowly defined sub games like BGs or arenas.

Again, you have those without ever having to set foot on a pvp server. It’s fairly obvious you have some kind of axe to grind since you’re so hyper argumentative about it and refuse to engage in any kind of rational discussion on the subejct. Why are you so opposed to other players on a different server type that doesn’t affect you in any way at all? Your incorrect definition of pvp is entirely irrelevant so what is your issue?

That is this persons MO near universally. I placed them on ignore a few weeks ago because of it.

Most of what I said is in direct response to the OP. For which, he is mostly toxic to begin with. With that being said, I was around for all of BfA and it’s world PvP. During that time, regardless of the faction balance issues, there were plenty of even fights which was fine. But this started to become less of a thing as the expansions continued. SL and DF struggled with max level players interrupting another players progression. Because of this people opted to just turning WM off. This resulted in WM feeling a bit more barren and you get people like the OP coming in saying they don’t have any gank fodder.

As for the other part, removing faction fighting does not make it bad writing inherently. You can still have alliances between factions that had spent time fighting each other of the last couple decades. They would be fragile and there will be groups or individuals that don’t agree, like Garrosh in MoP. But with how DF ends you got both factions to unite under a common purpose, which completely fit within the parameters of being decent writing and story.

Continuing this trend doesn’t mean that you would eventually just have to remove PvP entirely. Due to lore reasons, we can keep BGs quite easily. You can queue up for it and Chromie could just make it a story session on what happened in previous years when both factions were at war. This would be pretty reasonable. Along with that, the red zones suggestion can still work because of the fact that someone else in the thread pointed out that you could just make these zones max level only. Any lower level that wanders in would be spat out or be told they can’t enter till level cap. This would remove lower levels fighting each other, but you can always duel anyone you meet in the open world to mitigate that.

The last point would make my suggestion work. Having an entire red zone similar to wintergrasp without the queue would work if only max level players could access it. This would eliminate a ton of issues for both parties.

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Pvp is player VERSUS player…period…a 70 ganking lowbies AINT that…no matter how much some in here need to say it is to justify their laughable choice of game play style. lol
IF your opponent dies on one shot, it AINT pvp…period.

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and to return the favor…so we dont get our wires crossed in the future. :wave: :wave:

“What is the meaning of Player vs. Player?
abbreviation for player versus player: (in computer games) **a game or way of playing a game in which there are many players who are each others’ opponents and can attack each other

Not…
“one shotting an under powered victim who cant even get a shot off if he wanted to”

lol

  1. The phrase “player vs player” has three words in it, none of those involve numbers or level.

  2. Fair and fun pvp are not the only kinds of pvp.

  3. You still refuse to engage on why you are against pvp servers. Will you explain or am I to assume unreasoning malice?

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honestly, this part is really starting to annoy me.
So YOU all can be pushy, arrogant and insistent, but if WE dare to reciprocate…lmao.

I think Imma ignore you now just for the point of it.

PLAYER....VERSUS....PLAYER.... one shotting victims ISNT "VERSUS" no matter how much you NEED to make it so.....

ignored.
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a rational discussion?
whats there to discuss, war mode solves all issues,
if you want PVP, enable it and do … PVP

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Chromie Time doesn’t shard people away from max level players. Chromie time just changes the way the person levels to the expansion.

I enjoy pet battling more than pvp but I bet I can still kick your butt. :dracthyr_crylaugh:

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I don’t feel I’ve been pushy or arrogant at all, if that appears to be so then that’s due to my trying not to lash out at you for your personal attacks.

When you call everyone wglho disagrees with you a lowbie killing murder and spew vitriol, that includes me. You responded to a post i made to someone else, and have been nothing but rude and unpleasant in every post. I dont think I’ve been rude to you at all, other than to speculate on the nature of your unpleasantness.

So go ahead and ignore me, but in case you haven’t yet, consider that how you treat people influences their reply.

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There’s been plenty to discuss but I don’t think you’re being intellectually honest so you do you.

Yes it does, outside of Stormwind/Orgrimmar, it absolutely shards away from players above level 60+.

It doesn’t.

Test it yourself. Try it, I promise you, I’m not mistaken. Go on a character that’s under level 60, go into Cataclysm Chromie Time, and turn on War Mode. Go to some place, I don’t know like Barrens, and see if you can see a character who’s level 60+ also with War Mode on.

You won’t be able to. If you’re partied too, it’ll say on the right of their party frame something along the lines of, “This player is in Cataclysm Chromie Time.” The only way you’d be able to see them is if you party synced, but party syncing will drop the max level character to level 60. They’re deliberately sharded from them otherwise.

Just read all of the War Mode forum threads too of some individuals complaining that Chromie Time killed old world WPvP.

Ganking this AINT…lol

What is PVP in Gaming? (PvP)

Player versus player (PvP) is a type of gameplay in video games that involves competition between two or more human players.

Ganking = ZERO COMPETITION…
Ganking is…I shoot you, you die.
No PvP to it…

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