Time for massive changes in PVP

If you watch AWC and think every class is viable for arenas youre nuts. Hpally Disc healers only. Rogue Mage Lock Feral only other classes in the AWC…Outside the norm for F tier no other classes even compete. Kinda boring IMO

Oh forgot SP

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Every AWC I can recall has always had meta comps. It is nothing new, every season has meta healers and meta dps, if their kits work off each othe they have a meta comp. Nothing new.

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Buff mw and fw.

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You obviously didnt read what i said…Every AWC has meta comps but everything was viable. If youre not an Hpally or Disc you are not Playing. If you are not a feral of SP you are not playing. Im literally watching Laros get wrecke don wariror right now…

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It’s the same for solo shuffle and rated arena. If you aren’t a disc priest or hpally, there’s no point in playing. Both of these classes are far superior healers to any other healer. It’s no fun. A lot of people quit playing this season and more will end up quitting unless blizzard does something to balance out other healers.

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I agree, nerf feral.

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Arms Warrior is in one of its worst states ever.

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Don’t know what to do? try hpal feral plus you!

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Fr do yall ever get tired of just complaining about wow balance lmao.

Play what’s fun bro it’s a gaaaaame

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hpal/feral/mw yeeeaaaaaaa

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If everything is viable, nothing is meta. Yeah, this time its disc and hpal. Hpal seems to have an edge because it seems to work better with feral/shadow, which work well together.

Nah leave fw in the dirt where it Belongs

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Yes there can be Meta comps even tho everything is viable. When was the last AWC you saw where ONLY 2 healers were viable. Never. Where have you seen an AWC where SP FERAL are so OP they make people like Drake and Pika reroll just to be able to play? 99% of AWC comps have a variety of Comps even tho there not meta there still decent and can win. If youre not playing Hpally Feral SP you dont win.

Unless you’re echo playing Disc / Afflic / Sub?

Also the second place team NA is primarily played Hpal / Ele / WW

Second place EU team playing Disc / feral / Frost mage.

So across the top 4 teams in their regions we see 8 of the 13 classes?

It’s weird that pres got 1 change that shouldn’t have changed anything and nobody talks about it anymore

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Shut up, man.

To be fair, I can understand the frustration of not getting outplayed but rather ‘out tuned.’ But it’s communally our fault anyway. If people primarily played mains, the balance of power wouldn’t seem so wild.

It’s when patch notes come out on Friday, and by end of maintenance on Tuesday you have an army of geeks spamming lame garbage like Ret/War/FW (and it’s 1 of 2 or 3 total comps you see in 95% of your games until the next patch) that makes arena suck.

If Blizzard found a way to incentivize participation on one or two classes on an account, per season, I think people would be happier for playing what they like/are comfortable with, the gameplay would be more interesting because you would play into different stuff, and stuff like your main being B tier would be felt less.

Either that, or just give us SL S2 levels of hyper inflation so you can get a drake while playing Shockadin if you queue enough.

You are tripping. Last AWC we had Lontar playing Shaman, Jayti played H Priest, Dex played R Druid, Cdew played Presvoker and Meepmonk was top 8 with MW. Now there are only two healers and few teams trying R Shaman with mediocre success.

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Completely disagree.

FOTM rerolling isn’t the issue, it’s the result of issues. If the game was balanced well people wouldn’t reroll as much and even if they did you wouldnt care because it’d be balanced.

In what competative scene is it healthy to try and coerce people into being locked into one or two champs?

I get your thought behind it but it’s not fixing the real issue IMO.

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These people have been failing at tuning for 20 years, I wouldn’t expect them to finally figure it out.

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Fotm rerolling is definitely an issue, it’s just a bit more convoluted than that. If the general idea in the PvP community was to get better, people would fotm reroll less.

But that’s not what people want. They don’t want to get better. They want to find ways to get to x rating or title without the effort. If that means Fotm re rolling 10.1.5 ret and downloading new WA package every season, so be it.

A majority of it rests on blizzard, but a non zero amount also rests on players who simply do not want to get better. They just want the rewards.

That’s why there’s always a boogeyman. Either it’s mmr deflation, or a specific class, or the moon was too bright on their face. Anything to absolve themselves of their own inadequacy in the game mode.