Hello,
Is it true that each character will have three naxx lock outs per reset?
10 person lockout
Normal 25 person lockout
Heroic 25 person lockout?
Thank you.
no heroic.
So your saying that a character can raid naxx twice per reset only?
10 person
25 person
only?
No heroic for either.
Yes, you can raid 10 and 25 on the same week.
Edit: 25 always give better ilvl compared to 10.
Heroic didnt happen till later raids. Before that they had hardmodes.
So is there a hard mode specific reset or raid ID?
From what I am understanding, in phase 1 wrath, a character can raid 6 times per reset. 3-10-person raids and 3-25-person raids.
No there’s no hardmode encounters or Heroic toggle, pre-Ulduar 25 man is what Blizzard considered “hardmode”.
But yes, technically there will be 6 lockouts you can do with 10 & 25 man EoE, OS, & Naxx
the heroic mode being seperate from normal didnt come until ToC
Phase 1 Raids
10 Man called Normal
25 Man called Heroic
Phase 2 Raids
10 Man called Normal
25 Man called Heroic
Phase 3 Raids
10 Man Normal
10 Man Heroic
25 Man Normal
25 Man Heroic
Both 10 mans and Both 25 mans share a lockout. So you can only do one 10 man clear and one 25 man clear.
Phase 4
10 Man Normal
10 Man Heroic
25 Man Normal
25 Man Heroic
Both 10 mans and Both 25 mans share a lockout. So you can only do one 10 man clear and one 25 man clear.
Is what will happen if I remember Wrath properly and the changes they want to make for ToC/ToGC
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It isn’t until TotC that you had the massive overlap of lockouts that I believe (confirm or no confirm this) they changed as well.
Naxx you can run it on 10 and 25 and their is no heroic mode.
Uld you can run 10 and 25, the hardmodes are ACTIVATED though how you do the encounters thus are in the same lockout.
TotC had the toggle system to h or n. So in the past you could do 10, 10h, 25, 25h but I believe that’s been changed so you can do 10 of one h or n and 25 of either h or n.
ICC was the same as TotC but probably also has been modified to the new model of TotC.
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ICC was not the same, only togc had 4 lockouts. ICC heroic was on a boss by boss basis, it never allowed you to do both heroic and normal.
Thank you for the correction. I forgot you could change it boss by boss.
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Can any one confirm this please?
Phases 1 and 2 only normal raids available.
All subsequent wrath phases, 10 and 25 person raids can be either normal or heroic but not both.
Thank you
I would assume that they’re going to change ToGC so that you can switch on a boss-by-boss basis, like you could back in ICC during retail WotLK. But that’s just my assumption.
This is kind of a nit-picky correction, but I wouldn’t differentiate it by phase but rather by instance. ToC & ICC & RS are the instances that have a “heroic” difficulty setting. No other instance will have it, even later on in the game’s phasing. For example, Ulduar won’t be given a heroic mode even during Phases 3-5.
Back during retail WotLK in ICC you could swap difficulty on a boss-by-boss basis. So you weren’t prevented from doing normal if you did a single heroic boss and vice versa. And like I said to the other poster, I expect ToC to work the same during WotLK Classic.
Yes only 10 and 25 at start, with gear that does this
10 = ilvl 200 KT = 219
25 = ilvl 213 KT= 226
Now dunno whats going on with ilvl past that, as they havn’t said but heres the old break down since you mentioned gear
Uld 10 = 219 Hard = 226 *ilvl expected to change
Uld 25 = 226 Hard = 239 *ilvl expected to change
ToC 10 = 232 *Shares lockout with Heroic 10
ToC 10H = 245 *Shares lockout with Normal 10
ToC 25 = 245 *Shares lockout with Heroic 25
ToC 25H = 258 *Shares lockout with Normal 25
ICC 10 = 251 *Shares lockout with Heroic 10
ICC 10H = 264 *Shares lockout with Normal 10
ICC 25 = 264 *Shares lockout with Heroic 25
ICC 25H = 277 *Shares lockout with Normal 25
I hope that anwsers your questions
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I would argue that Phase 2 has more than “normal” raids. It has hardmodes for each boss fight, that if you meet the criteria to trigger the hardmode, engages a significantly more difficult fight, and drops better gear for beating this significantly harder fight.
I am confused. Your saying phase 2 has heroic/hard mode and normal mode?
originally,
naxx/sarth/maly had a 10 and 25man separate lockout. with hardmode options in Sarth within the lockouts.
ulduar had a 10 and 25man separate lockout with hardmode options within.
ToC HAD 10n, 25n, 10h, 25h but this time around will only have two. i don’t recall details. i think 10N/10H and 25N/25H.
Phase 2 will be ulduar and it will have " hard modes" all that is tho is you setting up the fight thats harder on the raid.
For instance in phase 1 you will have Sartharion, you can make him a hard mode by not killing any of the drakes and thats called Sarth 3 drakes since it makes you fight Sarth and all 3 drakes at once.
Naxx has no hard modes.
Ulduar has hard modes for most bosses.
For example, a few hard modes in Ulduar include:
Flame Leviathan has towers around his area, that if you destroy all the towers before engaging the boss, the fight is really easy. Then he drops standard loot. Then you can choose to leave some combination of the four towers up… but each tower you leave up gives him a buff that makes him harder to kill, with four towers being the hardest encounter, and he drops better and better loot the more towers you leave up.
Mimiron is already a tough encounter, but in the back of the room there’s a big red button that says do not press. If you press the button, he goes berserk, and drops better loot if you kill him while he’s berserk.
Yogg can only be engaged once the four Keepers of Ulduar are defeated, and once you defeat them, you can send them down into Yogg’s prison to help you with the encounter. Each Keeper gives your raid a buff, and killing Yogg with fewer than four Keepers assisting gives you better loot, but is extremely difficult.
There is no “heroic difficulty” but the fights can be made significantly harder than the cookie cutter easy mode, and if you manage to beat the harder fights, you are rewarded.