Long story short, I bought 2 items off a guildy that are my bis and were way bigger upgrades for me. I told the GM and made sure everyone knew and no one cared. I get a message from my GM today saying “there will be no more buying loot from guildies”. Is this really that big of a deal? The person I bought the loot from isn’t getting prio or anything and not a healer so I don’t see the issue with this. Is it just me who finds nothing wrong with this?
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Were these made by that Guildy (aka: a crafted item)?
I think it’s more about how a guild should just help eachother out instead of trying to extort them for gold.
It sounds as though it was a consensual agreement between both parties, so I personally don’t see an issue. I’ve traded items for gold to guildies, but I always made sure to discount the item heavily, since it was somebody I knew rather than some stranger on the AH
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Your guild awarded loot to someone else, you look bad buying loot tbh. Same goes for the guy selling it.
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No they were boss loot. Specifically Leggings of the Wanton spell caster and Illustration of the Dragon-Soul
People will win gear and then hand it off to someone else for profit.
That is dirty. It happened once in my guild also and it was stopped.
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Yeah but they didn’t “reward” it, it was won by rolling
Looks like someone cared.
Yes its a big deal I wont be on such guild if its avaliable.
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Well then its morally alright, however it looks bad still regardless.
This is a different scenario entirely. It’s not like you traded someone a BoE you had lying around. This is kind of a way to abuse a /roll system.
Person A wins the loot roll, but “sells” it to Person B, who had a lower roll than Person C who potentially could’ve used it themself
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Then I agree with the GM in this respect. If that guildie won the loot but could not use it, then it should have been either returned to the loot master or the given to someone else who could use it (free of charge). Sounds like the person you purchased it from was greedy. Crafted items are different but loot, no. If no one could use it, DE it and the guild can use the mats.
This was not you selling the loot was it and you are “asking for a friend”??
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That’s fine but they aren’t getting it again…
All these weirdos talking about morality lmao.
It doesn’t matter. It’s however the guild wants to structure itself.
While I personally, and my guild, just trade items we don’t want or need to each other after getting the item, I see no issue with selling it either.
Any third party that cares, shouldn’t. It’s a transaction between two consenting parties. Literally it.
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If someone doesn’t need something keeps rolling so they can sell…
That is just dirty. Consenting or not. There’s other parties at play here.
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You broke the first rule of fight club.
If it’s a boss drop then it should be used by the guy that won it, else they should not have rolled. If it’s a random drop they won somewhere else, then yes they can sell it.
“What if everyone rolled greed? Shouldn’t that change the “morality” of the situation?”
-I mean they shouldn’t have rolled “need” on it. If they all greed rolled the thing, then the guy can do whatever they want with it.
Honestly I don’t feel you did anything wrong but they guy you bought from is a d bag. If you need loot roll if you don’t then don’t roll. Profiting off guildie is scummy.
I wouldnt sit by quietly if this happened either.
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I and my friends have taken items because we didn’t know if it would be an upgrade. The raid is moving on, and if our ML takes it, he Crystals it, because Naxx has a lot of loot and a lot of loot we don’t need. Sometimes it is an upgrade and we keep it. Sometimes it isn’t and we see if anyone else wants it, or we crystal it. A couple times loot was won and then a change of heart took place and was handed over to someone else.
Things happen.
Ontop of that, it’s literally the second sentence.
If a guild wants to focus on profits as well, and structures itself like this, then so be it. Don’t be in one if you don’t want to do loot like that.
Random people parading around their loot morality is peak boomer. If the GM isn’t actually happy with it and tells OP and the other guy in question to stop then so be it, it is what it is.
Literally none of this matters. All that matters is how the GM wants it done, and if his raiders are willing to follow.
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What if everyone rolled greed? Shouldn’t that change the “morality” of the situation?
Then why are you even posting?
By your own words - the GM doesn’t like it so it is what it is.
This is peak zoomer where they talk a lot, but say nothing of value.
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