Thoughts about IF Shadowlands will be a botched product at launch as well

Yeah you pledge yourself to their cause. You help them they help you.

But I don’t get what’s so wrong with going: “Yeah I’ll help you out, and in turn you’ll help me!”

That’s just cooperation.

No, swearing fealty is not just saying “I’m going to help you out. so you help me out.”

You clearly don’t know what swearing fealty to something means.

Swearing fealty to something means you’re commiting yourself completely to something and putting yourself under the command of said thing you’re swearing fealty to.

I’m not putting myself under the control of one of these covenants.

But I’m not saying what fealty is. That’s just a radicalization of what’s actually going on. You can swap covenants willingly. It’s basically just an “I help you, you help me” kind of deal. I don’t get why you just inherently hate these covenants so much.

Nobody is controlling you. You’re taking all of this way to seriously. Still, I don’t understand what these covenants do that is just so evil in your mind. You make a deal with them and that’s it. You’re treating this like you’re in real life signing your rights away to the mafia or something.

I’m not signing on for a death cult.

I don’t need them. :woman_shrugging:

I don’t see why figuring out exactly why I don’t like Covenants is so difficult for you. I’ve explained exactly why I dislike the covenants multiple times now.

You keep saying that you don’t like joining the cause of a “death cult”

That being a radicalization of just various different groups within the Shadowlands tasked with different roles.

I’m trying to understand where this hate originates from.

On this point we can agree.

You did as well, you mentioned the story termination of WC3 as one of the reasons people would leave the game. Everything else you mentioned (career, relationships, children etc) would have been just as applicable back then however the WC3 storyline ending was something that did actually get people to leave the game.

I personally didn’t care for the direction the story went in; however to assume that WoW was ‘dead’ ‘finished’ etc because of the closure of that story loop was a hyperbole. Which is something that I can remember to this day being written about in these very forums.

BfA launch date - 8/13/2018
First person I saw flying, 7 days after 8.2 launched - 6/30/2019
That’s a 321 day gap, last I checked that’s 307 days more than a couple weeks.
There is NOTHING HARD OR DIFFICULT about Pathfinder. It’s the 307 day timegate for ZERO reason that I refuse to subsidize anymore.
If blizz announced today that PF1 would allow flight in the release zones upon completion I’d preorder the maximun level package, buy a years subscription and be happy flying my glow worm around. :hear_no_evil::speak_no_evil::see_no_evil:

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I’ve already told you where it comes from.

They just want you to spend the first year using ground mounts because it gives you a chance to deeply explore the zones instead of just immediately flying over everything. I know not everyone cares about that, but I personally enjoy it, as do others. But I still always see people complain about the “work” you have to put into getting pathfinder and I think it’s so silly xD

Deathwing burned a few zones… all he had to do was wait… the entire universe is going to go up in flames and/or explode.

Do you know how many people they had before the 11 were cut? What is your source for quoting 11? There is a youtuber who makes a good case that originally there was an 8.3.5 patch planned (based on resource names in the code), but they rushed all that content into 8.3 (and it shows) so they can focus on SL. That is “good” that they focus on SL, but it tells me they cut DEEP. FYI, I do tech support for a software company. Been here 23 years in support and QA, so have an idea of what I am talking about.

That’s not really how it happens in reality. Whether they’re on the ground or in the air, people take the shortest distance to get to the objective they need and then they get out. The population that “deeply explores” the zones is minimal at best in that first year.

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