I hate the new change. I forgot about it and was just doing my rotation and it felt AMAZING only to suddenly come to a crashing halt as I was unable to do anything. No energy. And then I saw my Thistle Tea keybind and it hit me.
So I go to look for a node or some button in the spell book to see if I could take it off auto. Nope. So yay! Now I HAVE to play by watching my energy meticulously.
Just unbelievable. Why are we not listen to?
Yea its managable single target raid/bosses imo, becuase you never really want to dump other than transition phases and end of fights.
But in hectec AoE like high level mythic plus it gets extremely hard to manage.
I really do hope they patch to make this optional somehow.
dont like the thistle tea change? buy a $90 dino and feel better
Yes please!
I never really cared for Thistle Tea, ever. But this new change is horrible. The auto-use is total crap. When I raided on Wednesday night, it felt really off. It was never available when I need it.
Do we have any viable builds that don’t involve this nonsense?
Adding my voice to the chorus of “this is terrible for long time rogue players.”
short version: no. I simmed a couple and the least amount of dps I lost was 40k x_x
Yep feels terrible to play now…
Needs to be an optional thing.
PTR forums had a lot of people saying it wouldnt be bad which is hilarious considering there were a handful of ways to achieve the goal of the change and Blizz straight up chose the worst version.
Easiest and simplest solution.
you should see the shaman class too >.< the massive nurf on tuesday 15-20% nerf when only 0.1% of the playerbase are blowing up like they fear >.>
but then look at pallies getting no nerfs when they constantly outperform for their item level.
and i know i would love it being toggleable like hunter/lock pet abilities that can be toggled on or off cause on raid / boss fights i wouldn’t mind it being on but still a dps loss due to the mastery proc but it would still be not terrible, but on trash it auto popping right before the mobs die is bloody dumb.
In all honesty if WoW wasnt like the only viable MMO option, I would play something else.
The next most popular MMO is Final Fantasy?
FF isn’t that bad. really depends on perspective of how you like to get to the “end game”, don’t expect PvP like WoW over there, but the raiding is phenomenal, played Ninja cause it was the closest thing in APM to like rogue. nothing wrong with metaphorically touching grass in another game when you get bored of your main.
SAY IT LOUDER!! MAKE THISTLE TEA GREAT AGAIN.
Seriously though, Blizzard what the heck. Its not just Sub, its Assassination as well. I dont need my 3 charges blown through on mobs or while I’m waiting for other CD’s so I can sync them with Tea Thistle at times in a boss fight. Blizz this is a major, major L.
No, just remove it.
Such a basic concept of a talent and Blizz still cannot get it right.
I completely agree, this change while well intentioned for button bloat, its a serious hindrance due to how our Energy as well as Thistle Tea itself works (having the Mastery Buff)
And having these pop at the wrong time, or by accident is a detriment that cant be overstated.
Energy Management was already hard, now its straight up awful.
Most people on the PTR forums asked for a choice node so the Rogue community were united on this issue.
I say we should protest with emotes.
Every rogue makes a
/e steals tea from %T to cope with the side effects of the crippling thistle tea addiction.
Then spam it in open world in front of everyone.
Beg for tea, steal tea, hit people with a giant Stanley cup filled with tea.
Make it known that us rogues have a tea problem!
I think I’ll do a macro or weak aura that displays my emotions whenever Thistle Tea pops on its own
That’s literally like ALWAYS their model they go with. They are given a billion ways to go about something, and they go "lets take this fraction of what they said, and make it worse (with a twist, a cost, or something no one ever asked for) then they wait weeks/months/year, and slightly change it to what people wanted, and then they MIGHT change it to what we actually wanted. I mean we’re still waiting on those “big changes” they promised for soloQ in 2022 that they refuse to give us and left it in whatever state it is still in now.
It’s a never ending theme. This change i swear not a single person ever asked for. Has to be the RP trash rogue dev that got mad at not being able to mash his 40-50 energy spenders fast enough having to use a global for his thistle, so they make this change so they can mash until their enemy is dead.
Imagine a rogue dev that doesnt know how the rogue works lol