As a counter example, my guild had gotten ~35 of the same ring off a boss before we saw the tank trinket once under PL. usually we got 1 or 2 per kill.
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Because BiS stats > marginal item level increase
Come on now
It is wild how many people donât realize PL is just rolling for loot without showing you that youâre rolling for loot.
Group loot is way better, I am over people feeling entitled to my PL lol.
âNeed ring?â
âNeed cloak??â
âNeed helm???â
Whispering me before I even have a chance to inspect the loot myself lmao. God, shut up
Good riddance lmao
They even made an addon to automate being entitled to your loot from PL.
I donât need anything from normal.
Iâm above 437 and got the good trinkets and all that jazz.
I still will run normal with the guild even though there is literally 0 loot reward.
Why? Because itâs fun.
Idk if this was ever confirmed to be true but it certainly felt like it, but in a bad way. It âfeltâ like you would get Atleast 1 piece of loot from a full raid. The downside however was when you won the same cloak 5 weeks in a row from an early boss, you pretty much knew that you wouldnât loot anything else during raid since your âbad luck protectionâ was wasted once again. Felt horrible imo.
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LFR is the exact place for it.
At first i was a little put off by it because i was worried id get less loot. But honestly its so much better.
I forgot how much i missed clicking the body and seeing all that purple.
when my alt druid did lfr this last week⊠every piece usable by me was needed on by a higher ilvl person. they wonât use⊠they just needed because they couldâŠ
I saw only 1 or 2 people ever hit pass⊠it was need 75%/greed 25% and then those few who know how to play fairly
Then youâd understand that all leather has both Agility and Intellect lmao
Thatâs not true. Because it can be upgraded and it may have better stats or they may turn it into tier.
Thatâs still not zero as was claimed by someone else.
Iâve seen lots of people pass and almost no one pass. But at least the option is there. It wasnât with PL.
Do you have any idea how crappy it feels to be given a piece you donât want and you canât even give it away?
Or how bad it feels when people stacked the group and you knew youâd never seen anything you needed either?
Atleast now we see these things and people have choices.
It sounds like you lost a roll for an item because someone else rolled and got a higher number than you did.
It sounds like itâs working exactly as intended.
Get rid of LFR.
But you donât call those same people unfair players when PL still gives them the loot and nobody can even pass?
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Cute snark, and I understand the âdrawbackâ.
Very likely outcome considering your Melee DPS probably werent rolling tank loot spec, and as stated in that post PL supports targeted loot. Without knowing which boss you are talking about I cant say for certain, but assuming you had 5 Melee that can roll for tank trinkets it is likely you would have saw more. Tanks are perhaps the biggest loser of PL in terms of trinkets, I can agree on that, but at least in a Guild environment you can stack the odds with PL better than GL.
On that same token in your counter example, 1 or 2 dropping per kill isnât exactly good either. If your Melee DPS donât often tank then that is a very wasted loot slot towards tank trinkets.
GL is better for varience, PL is better to target. There are some (notably tanks) who might suffer from PL dropping what they want but again its more possible to game the odds for specific drops in PL than it ever will be in GL.
Regardless of this whole PL/GL debate, I do want to see PL back in LFR at the very least.
iâm not fighting for PL (because i hated it more)⊠just a system that stops people from needing on gear that clearly an ilvl downgrade⊠they added the transmog feature for a reason so they should limit how need works.
Yeah I donât even do LFR but whoever decided to bring back group loot for it clearly doesnât even play the game. Itâs horrible, people just need on everything they can regardless of whether they need it or not. It also creates a problem for collecting Transmog. Sometimes the LFR colors are actually the best for some classes imo, but trying to farm them is absolute torture because you have to compete with so many people, and youâre now taking away tier from people for transmog because Blizzard refuses to just give us the LFR recolor when we collect Heroic or Mythic for some reason.
You really gonna worry about bis LFR gear lmao
They should just make higher ilevel items unlock all lower mogs and make tier only work with sets 1 level higher.
No reason for geared players to even go to LFR unless itâs for funsies so people can stop being salty.
But ilevel isnât the most important part. Stats are. Trinket effects are. Turning it into tier is.
Not true , there were restrictions.
Any ilvl up grades could not even if the stats were pure dog crap for the class /spec you got it on.
The whole GL thing we got going now is Blizz monkey pawing people request to remove the restriction .
Either way Iâll take both over Master Loot.
the average person who is worrying about that is pushing heroic/mythic and M+ wonât do LFR just for a bis because they can get it otherwise else wereâŠ
its points to argue bis when your in LFR