Group Loot in LFR is still trash.
Get rid of this crap Blizzard in LFR.
Group Loot in LFR is still trash.
Get rid of this crap Blizzard in LFR.
I very much like group loot over personal. Choices for me to pass to people who may need things, stuff we can just greed on for enchanting mats if no one needs it, and no one whispering me constantly for my loot. They see I rolled need and know I needed it.
It’s really disappointing how many people seem to be unable to deal with losing a fair roll even when PL regularly gave the same outcome.
at least personal loot gave 1 item, people can win multiple with need for loot
You where always able to give your personal loot to others
I couldn’t give them things if it was a higher ilevel than what I had. If I got a ring with crap stats that was a higher ilevel, it couldn’t be traded. So it got trashed. Meaning no, I couldn’t always give them stuff. Nor do I have to ask or get obnoxious whispers from the entire raid. Now I can pass on it.
And no more blocking people for obnoxious whispers.
Why would you not keep higher ilvl tho ?
When my best stats are haste and mastery and the game shoves a crit vers ring into my bags to replace a hast mastery one, that crit vers is getting trashed.
Same reason people still keep the FR ring.
When you had personal loot, you could guarantee the loot would go to someone who needs it.
Now you can surely pass on it, but will it land on the hands of someone who needs it? Impossible to say.
imo the system is all downsides with no upsides (for the average player). With personal loot, it fostered good interactions since you’d be handing out loot and the other person would be happy and all that. When you pass, usually people won’t even notice or care, so that positive interaction is just gone. And losing to people who actively pressed “Need” rather than someone who the system arbitrarily chose for loot also feels much worse.
The cherry on top is when the boss drops nothing you can even equip, which gives the feeling of “The game was rigged from the start”.
imo just enable it for full guild runs or even just mythic raids. If the system was any good it’d be in effect in dungeons, too, that it isn’t just shows they know it’s bad.
Incorrect. See my above example.
No. It fostered toxicity with tons of obnoxious whispers and angry people who demanded your loot, whether you wanted to keep it or not.
Why? At least you no longer get obnoxious whispers demanding your loot. They saw you rolled need. You needed it.
When people saw who got a piece they wanted in PL, they were still just as upset.
Which is why PL is gone: group stacking.
Dungeons are irrelevant for group stacking. No one cares about dungeon loot.
No one is passing on loot, everyone is rolling need even the high geared people
Well that’s just false. My addon shows me who needs, greed or passes. And people absolutely do pass— including me.
So where does this argument jump next, since we moved past the original one you tried and that one didn’t pan out, either.
Considering that a single person can win multiple items from the same boss / one run on rolls and some would get nothing at all… person loot was alot better loot distribution ,
Group LFR loot only exists for one reason.
To get players to stay subbed longer.
Yeah, instead force everyone to roll Need on every eligible piece and restrict trading between players! Obligatory /s.
Isn’t an issue. It’s just being entitled and selfish.
And add-ons insta spam begging for loot and people raging about those who didn’t trade what they won. Multiple threads every week with PL.
An advantage shared by everyone in the group.
I mean… Lfr loot is less than welfare tier so its barely a loss.
You can get better stuff from low level mythic if you dont want to try normal.
it’s trash for all content, not just LFR.
Its not really entitlement or selfish, people do content and invest time they need reward thats how the game works