This is not acceptable (Metamorphosis rune)

[Onivoker-zuljin]

Adding new tanks has never fixed the tank shortage in pugging

[Amorix-illidan]

Yeah, rogue’s tanking ability is locked behind another phase because right now it’s hot garbage lol.

[Someône-westfall]

And gatekeeping it surely won’t help either.
I wanted to tank as lock, I can’t. That was the whole point for me to play SoD, so I’ll just move to something else.

Warrior and Druid litterally get their tanking form handed to them.

[Qlipse-faerlina]

@Brifalda-gorgonnash

Shaman could not, you’d never have a shaman invited to a raid as a tank before SoD. Hell, you wouldn’t even have a pally raid tank in Vanilla and they have a Protection talent tree.

Shamans literally tanked Sulfuron adds in Vanilla and Classic. As did paladins. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

[Qlipse-faerlina]

@Anne-baelgun

What if you are not in a guild, or at least one that raids? I assume you will have to wait until the main folks get done gearing up to get rotated in, or try and find a LFR group.

LFG Bulletin Board on curse my guy.

[Lightsinger-ashkandi]

@Demonmom-skull-rock

The entire reason I am on SoD is to lock tank

I know how you feel. The entire reason I’m on SoD too is to get that one rune that does the thing, but to get it I have to get rep with the supply officer raised. That means turning in supplies. I mean wtf, if I knew I was going to discover THAT out I wouldn’t have hopped into such a cesspool of discovery. “Discover around, find out” Emirite? I think that’s the saying… anyways, here’s a handkerchief you big crybaby.

[Qlipse-faerlina]

@Someône-westfall

Even the dev admitted it. And you’re are there digging deeper.

OMG this again. The dev didn’t “admit” anything. He said that it was essentially an oversight for people THAT START AFTER PHASE 1 because raids will be harder to get into at that point. Thats all. JFC.

[Frogkingkaz-zuljin]

Yeah, i wouldn’t have minded a big cool adventure for way of earth, kinda lame honestly

[Frogkingkaz-zuljin]

What are guilds for? Also its 10 man and good xp at that. youd figure people would actually like playing the game instead of just getting through it as fast as possible

[Qlipse-faerlina]

@Amideus-dunemaul

because the word “raid” is involved

Yeah people forget we had 10 man dungeons back in the day and people started calling them a raid years later. Poor Leeroy.

[Flashock-stormrage]

Even if you manage to clear raid and get what you need.

I heard the open world part can be griefed endlessly.

[Qlipse-faerlina]

@Healiuhm-ashkandi

You wild too, fam. Chill with the boot licking. Especially when the dev team apparently admits they screwed up

This is literally a reply to another tweet. Post -that- tweet.

NVM I’ll do it for you.

RocknRolIa
@Portal_Ingress

Now imagine coming into the game late once phase one is over and finding out that you can’t find any groups that are willing to help you complete old content so you can finally get to tank as a Warlock.

He essentially said that for people coming in late its not cool AND there would be a catchup mechanic… which is what I said he said. Again, posting tweets without context is DELIBERATLY misleading.

[Someône-westfall]

Ok, I give it to you, they didn’t “admit” it. Still a stupid design and people defending it have no good argument, best case they have bad equivalency.

Warrior, Druid and Pally get their tanking form litterally handed to them at lv 10 after doing soloable content while still wearing mostly white and grey items…

A big point at BlizzCon was that lock and rogue would be able to tank, it’s fair to assume getting their tank form would be as EASY as the other class.

[Demonmom-skull-rock]

@Hitmonchant-defias-pillager

These aren’t remotely close to the same thing.

It’s literally the exact same thing. That rune enables tanking. Shield and defensive stance enables tanking. Actually you’re right it’s not the same thing because a warrior without a shield and defensive stance can still tank better then a lock without meta.

@Naztor-whitemane

I’m glad blizz is putting some vanilla.like long questlines in to get some of this stuff! Say no to tiktok zoomers! Loving it so far thank you blizz!

Long quest lines: good. having to do all the current endgame content to access a role on a class: not good.

@Daedessa-whitemane

bruh if you have no interest in raiding era is not the game for you

This isn’t era. This is SoD.

@Qlipse-faerlina

ould warriors tank before SOD

Yes.

@Qlipse-faerlina

Could druids?

Yes

@Qlipse-faerlina

Could shamans

Not very well.

@Amideus-dunemaul

• Warlocks are not naturally tanks. This is a NEW way to play this class that can be unlocked through season of discovery play. You are not supposed to have it from the start. You are supposed to earn it. You can argue that the effort to gain it is too large, but you don’t get to argue you should have it from the start.

So is mage healing, shaman tanking, and rogue tanking.

@Amideus-dunemaul

1. This is all new content and only for phase 1. There’s a whole three more phases of content for you to tank as. “Endgame” is only endgame for as long as the limitation is in place. Stop being melodramatic. If it’s that big of an issue for you come back in Phase 2.

Endgame is endgame. All endgame is temporary. Imagine if in any other version of the game you had to beat one raid tier in order to access tanking. But yeah you can tank in the other raid tiers so no big deal!

@Babypluto-pagle

Let me guess you also want all of your gear and enchants handed to you on a silver platter as well?

Reading comprehension remains intensely difficult for contrarians.

“silver platter” actually look up what you have to do for the meta rune. Removing the instanced content would still make it one of the hardest runes to obtain.

@Qlipse-faerlina

OMG this again. The dev didn’t “admit” anything. He said that it was essentially an oversight for people THAT START AFTER PHASE 1 because raids will be harder to get into at that point. Thats all. JFC.

Imagine purposefully misunderstanding something to fit your narrative.

[Naztor-whitemane]

@Qlipse-faerlina

Now imagine coming into the game late once phase one is over and finding out that you can’t find any groups that are willing to help you complete old content so you can finally get to tank as a Warlock.

You’ll probably be able to solo bfd by that stage so that won’t be an issue. And if you can’t find any groups until end game then it’s not like you were going to be tanking anything anyway. Stop whinging about clearing a single raid lol

[Qlipse-faerlina]

@Demonmom-skull-rock

Imagine purposefully misunderstanding something to fit your narrative.

I’ve already debunked this 3 times and posted the tweet he was replying to. Yawn.

[Qlipse-faerlina]

@Demonmom-skull-rock

It’s literally the exact same thing. That rune enables tanking. Shield and defensive stance enables tanking. Actually you’re right it’s not the same thing because a warrior without a shield and defensive stance can still tank better then a lock without meta.

Its literally not, all those classes were tanks prior to SoD. Comparing a major change to the status quo is ridiculous. The fact remains that Meta is the most overpowered rune in the game (as of right now). Its stronger than all other tanking runes for a single class combined, and locks get -other- tanking runes.

[Cholula-wyrmrest-accord]

@Qlipse-faerlina

This is literally a reply to another tweet. Post -that- tweet.

That is the second part of a two-part tweet made in a chain in which the larger conversation was about the rune being locked in a raid. You are taking a snippet out of context.

Aggrend’s reply acknowledges that mistakes were made and runes would not require raids in the future.

This doesn’t seem too hard to understand.

[Qlipse-faerlina]

@Cholula-wyrmrest-accord

Aggrend’s reply acknowledges that mistakes were made and runes would not require raids in the future.

Aggrend’s reply is a direct reply to another tweet, which I posted. That is the only context that matters. Assuming his reply connects to any other tweet in the discussion is asinine.

@Cholula-wyrmrest-accord

This doesn’t seem too hard to understand.

Also he said doing something -for this- so it doesn’t require -the- raid. Which implies a catchup mechanic for Meta. Not that other runes won’t be locked in raids.

READING IS HARD!

[Cholula-wyrmrest-accord]

@Qlipse-faerlina

Aggrend’s reply is a direct reply to another tweet, which I posted.

It was a two part tweet. You posted half.