This game is Really Bad Without World Buffs

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That’s not true. During vanilla and well into tbc they were constantly opening up new servers regardless of the fact that there was a healthy supply of low to medium pop realms to choose from. I can’t say what informed the decision to churn out what seemed at the time an endless supply of clean slate realms or what exactly prompted them to stop but it’s where the F R E S H meme got its start.

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World buffs are useful to speed up the clearing of old content. They are of almost no use pushing new content. That said, taking them out is still stupid/pointless. Now you get to enjoy farming the same raids a hundred times without being able to speed them up.

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What this guy said. The thread is now over. Glinda and co is defeated.

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if you are that bad at the game you could always go back to retail and use LFR

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This comment makes no sense. Classic era is done because the progression has long ended. It has nothing to do with world buffs.

If they release another season and put world buffs back in, people will come regardless.

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Fresh server advocates, that is to say those who want to restart the same classic version of WoW over and over, are no different than any other WoW forum special interest group promoting their personal pet project as whats best for everyone and thus, in desperate need of consideration if not immediate implementation.

The future of a fresh server is a perma P6 Naxx server (whatever that is, looks like its just a server to me) which is completely unplayable according to them - even though all the empirical evidence suggests you can do any and all vanilla content on them. In other words, the fresh server advocate endeavors to create a server they dont care about and ultimately dont want to play on and then use that to create another server they will end up not wanting to play on - even though they could play on any existing vanilla server for a vanilla experience.

That being said Im not strictly opposed to them. Just not right now. As Fyris has been saying they need to hook up existing Era players and give them a real server(s) to play on and then maybe you could attempt to breathe a little life into Era with a fresh realm - but not before.

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Im not disagreeing here but Ill point out that subs were still rising during that time with no sign of slowing down or stopping.

Look, I do think a fresh server or three could be really beneficial to Era down the road when the conditions are right but as it stands right now it makes no sense to do it.

You mean the guy who got banned for exploiting?

lol

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They’re not really asking for the same thing, though which is why one one group is NEW Server, and the other is Seasonal Server. NEW Server advocates don’t want their “fresh” to be deleted, ever whereas the Seasonal does. That’s why they’re different, in their goals/quest, when it pertains to “fresh”.

The game is a fragmented incoherent mess, its over, they run on hype now.

No one is “farming the same raids”. Most people are between 1/10 and 7/10

It feels like every topic in which you mention “world buffs” dies within 20 posts.

This one became worthless after 6.

People can’t control themselves. Classic Era needs a fresh start so all the nochange players can go to it and not be stuck playing an iteration of the game they don’t like.

no - this made the game into a raid log mini game

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Chronoboon from start.

Why?

Era still has all the world buffs you can eat.

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There is no hype for WoW.

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Why do you care?

Because I am a caring person.