I’ve played this game all my life, barring some breaks here and there. The game guides and teaches new players more than it ever has before. The earlier in the games life cycle, the more you had to look stuff up. Homie, we used to not be able to track quests without addons.
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No problem, I’ll have to wait until next expansion to find a guild who is progging heroic this late into the season, since my last pug groups (PLURAL) explicitly stated they don’t want to help people prog heroic; and only “AOTC VETERANS” are accepted into pugs.
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not a new person problem, that is a problem with a small group in the wow community.
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You make a really good point and I hope Blizzard is paying attention to your experiences because you’re not alone. I’m sure a lot of people have given up on getting into this 20 year old game.
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Quite literally, learn a lesson most young people need to learn (I wish I learned mine quicker), and market yourself. I just got done saying I coach people. That should have raised the lightbulb in your head and said “Well can you teach me?” “What about this guy, is he recruiting?” Think about these things. Find a guild. Market yourself. Find a group of people who might jive with you.
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While I overall agree with your sentiment. Ive been playing on/off for many years but returning players experience much of the same.
This is not a unique experience for new players alone. I had to use multiple 3rd party sites and do on thendaily when I play and I’ve been in the space forever.
Ive mever done cutting edge and most of the player base hasn’t either which is why alot of players experience similar things.
I do love your analogy of a local bar though it is a similar feel.
Sadly, I think this is just the wow MMOs tend. I think its a genra problem. After a large chunk of your player base has plylayed for years pateience for simple mistakes or pointless questions go unresponded and players get frustrated and leave.
Now sure how to fix it but ive been back for 3 months and most guilds I join barely talk and most ppl don’t want to hold a conversation.
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It’s a gaming thing. Nor is it a problem.
The reason that wiki’s for games are prolific is that there’s more to do in games than there was when I was playing Haunted House on my Atari 2600.
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Comparing an MMO with 9 expansions to a MOBA sure is a take.
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There are dozens of pugs going on all the time with wildly different vetting and requirements.
Your best to get invited if a little undergeared is applying when there is a low player count in the group.
Healers also tend to get in with more lax requirements.
And a lot of groups say “Aotc only” but don’t actually check.
You have to learn systems to do those things. I can’t think of any game where you can just jump right in with no experience and be as competitive as the regulars. The idea that ppl ding 70 and then rush to the forums to complain that they don’t understand anything is ludicrous.
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And always had to. Wasn’t any different for us as new players, just going to thotbott and elitist jerks instead of wowhead and icyveins.
Heh. thottbot
Goes to Thottbot to look up perplexing quest.
Sees 500 posts of “I solo’d this on my Hunter” and nothing else.
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lol no lie that is part of the reason to this day i cant stand hunters
Ok,how young is young?
This game wasn’t design for young ones under 20 just check the grammar and words used in this game ,college kids maybe.
This cannot be serious. Someone reading at a 6th grade level should be fine in wow. Though I guess with american reading levels rapidly degenerating maybe that bar has moved.
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Six level reading in America yeah it’s that bad so bad,the dick and jane books got old after third grade . There really wasn’t any medium between low grade and high ,go figure.
So the library was my second home for a long time .
Cause it isn’t, by the company, gameplay, and the players it is very uninviting.
The fact that you’re just thrown in, then told to go to wowhead for all your questions which isn’t great navigation, and you’re told to go there even to try to get through bugs… is bad practice.
One of my friends early experiences were getting kicked from BFA dungeons, which is where it throws you into as a starter, because the group was wiping (they were a DPS, not a tank/healer). No recourse for that and can’t queue for a while afterwards, cause it gives them a ‘deserter’ debuff (which is a derogatory term, and some players do get upset at that debuff being applied)
I hate these posts with a passion. Unless you are the young new player you have no idea what they think or feel about WoW. Yall veterans get on these soap boxes about new players and ain’t been a new player since The Burning Crusade.
WoW is dumbed down enough. If “said” new player can’t understand it, they don’t need to play it in its current state.
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I mean i was 40 when the game debuted. So absolutely it was great for “young” players! And still is.
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Wait until the War within. Due to that fact it will have dragon isles as the main starting point.