Iâve taken over the discussion by discussing your topic.
Got it.
Overly dramatic much?
You donât want brainstorming. Brainstorming implies that you may change your idea. Because something may be wrong with it. You want everyone to agree with you.
I donât want to be one of those people that slams other people down in an argument, but I have people arguing with me about Arcane magic not being ânature basedâ when they link me an image of Arcane magic as a mere component of whatâs clearly a ripoff of the Kaballah (e.g. Tree of Life).
Nature is absolute, yâall.
Please understand.
I had high hopes for this thread but itâs become something so ugly.
Well ok then, this explains a lot.
Iâm just likeâŚI dont know, I mean, its like⌠I dont know. AnywaysâŚ
Why not revert to some character assassination?
Classy.
Can you show me how arcane magic is nature based?
I bet proving your point would go a long way.
Well, if you prefer to take that as character assassination instead of a comment thatâs germane to your interpretation of magic that runs directly counter to the in-game lore then be my guest.
Yes.
I need you to really consider the word nature and what it really means.
Once you understand nature, you will come to understand all of reality.
This is not an exaggeration.
This is a literal truth that can be discovered through a number of means, including meditation.
Nature is nature, it is the way about ways, and what a way is is nothing more than an old thing by which you travel because all ways already exist in the totality, e.g. âThe Allâ.
That is, there is no ânew wayâ there is simply âthe wayâ which is your present nature.
SoâŚis that a ânoâ?
Because I need you to show me in WoW Lore, how Arcane magic is nature based.
OP I think you would be better off stating that this faction is a Primal Faction.
Weâre talking about WoW lore though⌠an din Warcraft lore, Arcane is not from nature
See: en.wikipedia dot org/wiki/Tree_of_life_(Kabbalah)
Thatâs essentially the âTree of Lifeâ.
I donât care about Kabbalah in relation to this conversation.
Kabbalah has nothing to do with WoWâs lore.
That is not related to WoW nor is it what WoW bases itâs nature/magic etc off of
The emperor is fully clothed, I agree.
Iâm using nature in human terms.
If that doesnât mesh with your âWoW understandingâ of the word youâre going to have a tough time talking with me from here on out.
I donât know why you keep trying to apply real word mysticism to WoWâs lore.
How much of WoWâs Lore are you wanting to completely re-write to make this work?
I see.
You are using terms that have absolutely no relevance, and trying to apply them to WoW.
Yeah. Good luck trying to use things like that to push for a change.
OP, on your chosen racesâŚ
Naga arenât Nature based humanoids. They are Highborne and that society looked down on Druidism. No it hasnât changed in 10,000+ years either because of how we interact with them on Azeroth all the time.
Centaurs arenât really into nature either, theyâre more shamanistic.
Satyrs in the WoW Universe arenât really tied to preserving NatureâŚtheyâre more about corrupting it.
Forest Elves, these guys are Night Elves mixed with Drow Elves in the WoW Universe.
Really the best races youâve compiled for a âNature Factionâ is Dryads and Pixies. However, the Nature Faction already exists within WoW as well, it is the Cenarion Circle.
This is and has always been a discussion about WoW⌠Why would you bring your unrelated terminology into this and think it would have any bearing on the conversation whatsoever?
I donât know why youâre so resistant to it when the gameâs obviously chock full of mysticism and mythology references from every walk of life.
Iâm blown away by your tenacity to argue against nothing, for nothing, and seemingly for no reason.
I feel like grunt horde NPCs that can reach the throne of Anduin in Stormwind should turn automatically into kings.
See, this is how it works in checkers. And that is how it should work in WoW.