I was moreso referencing BC/wrath when healer/rogue/rogue was played.
i know there was some healer/rogue/rogue played in i htink either cata or mop, i forget.
In TBC the second place team was rdruid/rogue/rogue. They switched out a warrior for the second rogue.
Having said that, fire mages are capable of way too much burst. How do you counter getting one shot like that?
Itâs not instant pyro, itâs pyroclasm. Hardcast pyro.
i just hope they see how ridiculous fire is in the tourney and nerf it appropriately.
They played Druid/rogue/rogue in BC when rogues could 4 piece 4 piece. Furthered by glaives.
The same came around in cata if rogues had the daggers.
I could think of it, combined with a holy pala. But I donât think it will win the tourney, as it has enough counterplay.
Completely agree with that. I donât know if NA has a team with a very good ele+fire+hpal but EU has and Iâm quite sure they will dominate the first tourney.
Fair and balanced game play!
Ya but on the contrary EU also doesnât really have any insane WWs compared to Drake/Trill that will play WW mage
I think itâs debatable which comp is actually stronger, from what Iâve seen the NA WWs are generally much better with Chun/Trill/Drake all being really incredible players
The ele shamans on NA are all mostly alts though so they donât really compare with Zeepeye/Swapxy/Jaime on EU, just as some of the most repped EU WWs in tourneys have been alts (blizo/whaazz)
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Very possible when paired with a Hpal, theyâre just as broken as Fire Mage.
Iâm calling HPal/Ele/Boomkin to win both NA and EU. The only thing that does well against it is Shadowplay but locks can get globaled by melee. Iâm expecting Cloud 9 to win this week because they can play all the best comps.
Itâs the donkey laugh with the âohhh my god imagineâ that gets me. Itâs just so gratingly annoying - especially since heâs an unpunishable god tier caster.
I donât think that is true. Didnât ABC won 2017 with ww+mage+rdruid? We also have Rezuz who is always a force on WW, Whaazz, Blizo alting ww and others who definitely know what they are doing. But from what I have heard, do other teams know very well how to kill wws. Especially RMP and Wizzardcleaves like Ele+Fire+Hpal and we have a lot of those comps.
They are deffo very incredible players, but in general much better? I doubt that tbh! Itâs like you would say EU mages and rogues and wizzards in general are a lot better than in NA? Personally I just think that the meta in EU is completely different and melees donât shine as much in EU as they do in NA, because wizzards always seems overwhelming here.
We can only find out when we see playing the best teams from EU and NA against each other on lan, but that wonât happen that soon unfortunately.
⊠Hes playing a troll spec that literally relies on you to constantly look for a pyroclasm proc, and then set it up so you actually are able to cast a full NON instant pyroblast on someone⊠This would NEVER work in a tournament and rarely works in arena games in generalâŠ
They played a lot of diff comps that blizzcon, mostly rogue mage but they did play ww mage in the finals
They mostly just counter comped a lot, niksi was an amazing multiclasser
I donât think youâd find Blizo or Whaazz not saying those monks arenât insane, they always give them massive props at every single lan
I mean EU has had one of the best mage rogues in the world for a while with whaazz/raiku which are ahead of other rmxâs, and loony/zeepeye/maro were always insane at playing wizard cleaves so ya they are ahead on those comps
Seems kinda obvious where peopleâs strengths are
Me neither, because they are insane, but you did say that NA wws are in general much better and I doubt that. You just barely see EU ww monks, mostly because other teams are too dominating. But if I would think of rezuz playing with maro and both getting real good synergy, I think they would give NA teams also massive props.
But so far I canât remember that I have seen much WW in general on Blizzcons. I mean, havenât Trill mostly played DH when they won the Blizzcon 2018? And AWC is limited by the region, which is why itâs hard to tell if they would also do as well when facing Whaazz or Maro, or if EU ww couldnât compete on NA finals. Not because the EU players are better or worse, but because itâs a team and comp based game.
Exactly, one of the best. But you wouldnât go as far to say: âEU mages and rogues and ele are in general much better than NA guys on those classesâ, would you?
Itâs your choice of words with âgenerally much betterâ that I find questionable. I mean, how are you able to judge if Rezuz or other main WWs would do as good as Trill, Chun or Drake? We donât have a direct comparison.
For ele absolutely I would say that
Then lets take another example: Itâs like you say that Whaazz is leagues above Snutz and Nahj, or Maro and Raiku leagues above Xaryu, cmd and Jah. And I doubt that a lot.
Yes lol
Maro and Raiku are with the exception of Jah is on the same tier
Maro/Raiku/Jah/Ceral/Wealthyman are all the god tier mages rn
Whaazz himself said that he think Snutz is an insane talented Rogue. I donât think he would see himself leagues above other Rogues, so why do you?
I agree, but let me ask differently: What EU wws do you know?