Things right click reporting will get you muted for:

[Cybaster-cenarion-circle]

I will wait and see, yes, but I will also continue to support Right-Click Report. Why? Because I think the only two problems are (1) the length of time between a squelch and a GM review, and (2) the lack of an obvious penalty for abusive false reporting. Those problems aren’t solved by removing RCR. They’re resolved by Blizzard further improving their GM systems to handle abusive behaviors.

I apologize for my assumption. I agree that the serve choice dictated the experience. You could have definitely gone all of vanilla without seeing the jerks at work if you were on the right server.

It’s unfortunate that Activision-Blizzard just got done sacking all those GMs, isn’t it? Just worsens the problem of these things needing GM oversight, as opposed to mob rule.

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

Did anyone in this thread tell you vanilla’s community was better than retail in some way that would lead to less abuse? Where did that come from?

It is a pretty widely held belief, don’t you agree with it? Or do you think Current WoWs community is better than Classics?

[Padrepwn-kiljaeden (Padrepwn)]

the internet has turned into total garbage since corporations decided everyone needs to be super nice

You need to go outside. People don’t usually act like they do on the internet. Corporations have long held policies about what is acceptable behavior and what is not. In fact society in general works just like that.
By total garbage you mean you can’t spew whatever you feel like without repercussions.
Go up to your local courthouse while a public hearing is going on. Display some of that behavior/language/world views that internet forums have policies against. See what happens. This isn’t new.

we deserve this because we tolerated it

You’re free to start your own forum with your own rules and pay for the up keep. Then you can make whatever rules you want to. See how it works out for ya. Heck you can call it thickskinneddiscussions.

reap what you sow,

Well you have this part right. You break the rules. You get the punishment or don’t participate. Pretty simple.

[Cybaster-cenarion-circle]

I’ve already told you that I don’t agree with it. I’ve seen enough ninja looting to know that classic could bring out the worst in people. It’s a pressure cooker. Onyxia raid leader, anyone?

Ironically, the same system gave me some of the best memories and thrilling experiences the genre could offer. But I remember what it did to some people.

[Padrepwn-kiljaeden (Padrepwn)]

I will wait and see, yes, but I will also continue to support Right-Click Report. Why? Because I think the only two problems are (1) the length of time between a squelch and a GM review, and (2) the lack of an obvious penalty for abusive false reporting. Those problems aren’t solved by removing RCR. They’re resolved by Blizzard further improving their GM systems to handle abusive behaviors.

Exactly this. Well said as always milady!

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

thats honestly shocking to hear, pretty sad honestly(the worst of people part), If I were to compare my own experiences I would heavliy agree it was better back then, but like everything else with WoW, soooooooooo many outside factors affect how the community will be now and I know it won’t be the same,but given how much more you need you fellow player in Classic, you would imagine people would treat each other better than some do now.

Wishful thinking , and hopeful thinking on my part I know.

Also I want to add, the only thing I am issuing with is the amount of abuse that could happen, I honestly would support not having a auto squelch attached to it.

[Anncoulterx-malganis (Anncoulterx)]

Look
If you had
One shot
Or one opportunity
To mine a rich thorium vein in Burning Steppes
In one moment
Would you capture it
Or just let that MFer who beat you to it get off without a right click report?

[Cybaster-cenarion-circle]

You didn’t really ask me about my experiences; you just kind of flatly asked me if people were better back then. You could dump our generation into retail and we’d fall into the same traps and habits as retail players, assuming some time-travel mumbo jumbo making this our virgin experience. Similarly, I expect that the retail crowd, if they came into classic as their first taste of WoW, they would have turned out like we did.

See where I’m going with this?

And I agree with RCR being fine if the automated punishment features are removed.

[Anncoulterx-malganis (Anncoulterx)]

And I agree with RCR being fine if the automated punishment features are removed.

There is no purpose to rcr without automation. It’s a money saving technique so they don’t have to hire community managers and game masters.

[Cybaster-cenarion-circle]

When you’re right, you’re right. It’s a bad sign, what with all the layoffs.

[Padrepwn-kiljaeden (Padrepwn)]

If they want to appear that they are avting in good faith, Blizzard first has to.prove that the guild abused the system and were not simply submitting reports in good faith.

Well that’s for blizz to look at but when they see 30 reports from members of the same guild a little further digging into this spam report will show some things. Oh 24 of them were not even in the zone this spam took place in? Oh the toon they reported hasn’t even spoken in that channel?
Blizz is not a court of law. They can and may take into account circumstantial evidence.
This depends on blizz A) being diligent in their investigation B)blizz willingness to purge abuse of the system to even bother investigating.
We don’t know what kind of info blizz sees on their end or exactly what is logged.

All it would take for that guild to disguise their abuse would be to report for “spam”. “Spam”, after all, is very subjective.

Not subjective if the toon being reported hasn’t said anything in any public chat channels. I mean a gm looks and this toon has 30 flags sent within a couple of minutes of each other but hasn’t said squat in game for 2 hours? That screams abuse or at the very least to dig a bit deeper.

Some people have even stated that posting the same, or similar, advertisement more than once in a 5 minute time span is spam and they will report it as such.

I’m wrestling a grizzly bear Friday night in a steel cage ladder match too.

We’ve already got at least one person that practically admits that he plans to collude with friends to squelch players he knows are not committing a violation while hiding behind “IMO, they were spamming”.

I personally hope anyone like that is banned to the extreme when they get caught. To set an example for others. Also how long does it take before blizz sees a pattern? Again blizz is not a US court of law. They can and may use circumstantial when making their decisions.
All this stat logging, automated systems, analytics, algorithms, and w/e else could also be logging how often people do use the system. We don’t know what else blizz has going on with this. They won’t say either. /shrug

[Runefrost-suramar]

The automation is going nowhere. And im happy about that.

I do however support GM’s that review the automated squelches and harshly ban abusers. But Im not going to stop supporting the squelches. Thats super transparent. Just people trying to get away from the people they annoy by being jerks in chat from having a way to mute them.

Nothing a troll fears more than having their bullhorn taken away. That SERIOUSLY rustles their jimmies. They can stand individuals muting them, but losing access wholesale to their entire “audience”? That wakes them up in the middle of the night with cold sweats.

BANS for abusers. But no removal of squelching. You troll like an idiot, you get mass muted.

[Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders (Thundertotem)]

I guess this will be topic of the week.

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

You didn’t really ask me about my experiences ; you just kind of flatly asked me if people were better back then

well no, actually I was referring to the Classic community as it sits now, i just wanted to add my experiences in there.

See where I’m going with this?

Well yah, but I am no different now than I was then, I still social, still helpful to everyone, but I am not the only person out there either and ‘new’ people abound, and of course some ‘old’ people who were never good.

I just hold the Classic community to a higher standard, and from how most everyone describes Classic, they do as well, I just highly doubt it would more abused than it is currently or has been since BC(when i guess it started)

And I agree with RCR being fine if the automated punishment features are removed.

Honestly, I could see this happening, but if not, we will end up seeing how it goes pretty quick, though I imagine you will get a few of those who game the system just to try and get a result,lol.

There is no purpose to rcr without automation. It’s a money saving technique so they don’t have to hire community managers and game masters.

Well sure there is, it would be just be an easier form to make tickets.

[Cybaster-cenarion-circle]

Ah, so that’s what you think of me. Tsk.

Everyone’s got an angle. It’s true. But abuse isn’t mine - I have a personal interest in this thing, because hopping from zone to zone sucking up newbies is one of my favorite early recruitment strats.

I don’t spam people.

I expect to get blasted, anyway.

[Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders (Thundertotem)]

n turn the DC component is also not needed.

The DC is confirmed to be a bug

[Anncoulterx-malganis (Anncoulterx)]

Nothing a troll fears more than having their bullhorn taken away.

And who determines what a troll is? A guild mad at some other guild? A group of players angry that some guy is tagging their devilsaur kills?

One premade mad at another premade for competing with their honor farming?

Or will it be you?

[Studmuffyn-veknilash (Studmuffyn)]

well then Troll intelligently and you will be ok!

[Anncoulterx-malganis (Anncoulterx)]

Well sure there is, it would be just be an easier form to make tickets.

We all know that isn’t what this is. C’mon son.

[Cybaster-cenarion-circle]